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236746.1
Date: 3/1/2013 1:13:19 PM
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Ok, according to a lot of what I read... these guys.... blow. Also, since my team created yesterday, am i right in assuming that these players will all turn 1 year older in the next week? Below I have listed the seemingly trainable players, or atleast players I might be able to train and flip as others call it.

Vic Constantinou (29474488) Point Guard
Weekly salary: $ 2 335
Age: 18
Height: 6'2" / 188 cm
Potential: bench warmer
Game Shape: respectable
Jump Shot: average Jump Range: atrocious
Outside Def.: respectable Handling: respectable
Driving: pitiful Passing: mediocre
Inside Shot: atrocious Inside Def.: average
Rebounding: atrocious Shot Blocking: average
Stamina: pitiful Free Throw: respectable ↑

Experience: atrocious

William Albert (29474474) Shooting Guard
Weekly salary: $ 3 952
Age: 18
Height: 6'4" / 193 cm
Potential: allstar
Game Shape: respectable
Jump Shot: average Jump Range: respectable
Outside Def.: respectable Handling: inept
Driving: respectable Passing: awful
Inside Shot: mediocre Inside Def.: inept
Rebounding: pitiful Shot Blocking: respectable
Stamina: respectable Free Throw: average

Experience: atrocious

Matthew Mahoney (29474477) Point Guard
Weekly salary: $ 3 692

Age: 19
Height: 5'10" / 178 cm
Potential: allstar
Game Shape: respectable
Jump Shot: respectable Jump Range: inept
Outside Def.: average Handling: average
Driving: respectable Passing: average
Inside Shot: average Inside Def.: pitiful
Rebounding: atrocious Shot Blocking: average
Stamina: respectable Free Throw: average ↑

Experience: atrocious

Ray Balsiger (29474473) Power Forward
Weekly salary: $ 2 624

Age: 19
Height: 7'0" / 213 cm
Potential: bench warmer
Game Shape: respectable
Jump Shot: inept Jump Range: mediocre
Outside Def.: inept Handling: awful
Driving: mediocre Passing: atrocious
Inside Shot: average Inside Def.: average
Rebounding: pitiful Shot Blocking: respectable
Stamina: mediocre Free Throw: mediocre ↑

Experience: atrocious

Steve Carlson (29474475) Center
Weekly salary: $ 2 636

Age: 21
Height: 7'2" / 218 cm
Potential: role player
Game Shape: respectable
Jump Shot: pitiful Jump Range: inept
Outside Def.: awful Handling: average
Driving: respectable Passing: awful
Inside Shot: respectable Inside Def.: awful
Rebounding: average Shot Blocking: pitiful
Stamina: awful Free Throw: inept ↑

Experience: atrocious

Xiao Bretoña (29474476) Small Forward
Weekly salary: $ 4 530

Age: 22
Height: 6'3" / 190 cm
Potential: superstar
Game Shape: respectable
Jump Shot: respectable Jump Range: respectable
Outside Def.: mediocre Handling: respectable
Driving: average Passing: atrocious
Inside Shot: inept Inside Def.: inept
Rebounding: mediocre Shot Blocking: pitiful
Stamina: awful Free Throw: average ↑

Experience: atrocious

Cyrus Mena (29474479) Shooting Guard
Weekly salary: $ 2 174

Age: 23
Height: 5'11" / 180 cm
Potential: perennial allstar
Game Shape: respectable
Jump Shot: awful Jump Range: respectable
Outside Def.: inept Handling: average
Driving: respectable Passing: atrocious
Inside Shot: mediocre Inside Def.: atrocious
Rebounding: mediocre Shot Blocking: atrocious
Stamina: average Free Throw: average ↑

Experience: atrocious

Emory Swift (29474482) Power Forward
Weekly salary: $ 2 800

Age: 23
Height: 6'6" / 198 cm
Potential: perennial allstar
Game Shape: respectable
Jump Shot: respectable Jump Range: atrocious
Outside Def.: inept Handling: average
Driving: respectable Passing: awful
Inside Shot: average Inside Def.: pitiful
Rebounding: inept Shot Blocking: average
Stamina: pitiful Free Throw: mediocre

Experience: atrocious

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236746.2 in reply to 236746.1
Date: 3/1/2013 1:51:08 PM
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:-/ I would just say to heck with them... and work with the guys you draft in the next few days, or use some of the 300K you start with, and buy trainees that other people sell/toss...

Mahoney and Albert are the only ones worth crap from that group... and even still... they'll at best be no better than some guy you probably draft anyways. Just stick them on the butt ends of 2-pos training like JS, or 1v1, or Reb. Though if reb, I'd not use it on guards necessarily

Last edited by LBJisaCancer at 3/1/2013 1:51:29 PM

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236746.3 in reply to 236746.1
Date: 3/1/2013 5:32:12 PM
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William Albert looks worth keeping around.
Matthew Mahoney is going to be 20 next season so he's a bit late to train but if you don't get any good draft picks he might be OK to train.
Xiao Bretoña is OK to keep as a bench player IMO.

Your best bet will be the draft or to pick up some decent trainees on the waiver next season.

Also pick up some starters on the waiver.

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236746.4 in reply to 236746.1
Date: 3/1/2013 5:54:19 PM
Woodbridge Wreckers
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Yeah these guys aren't gonna do you much good. I'd try and sell any that has an indication of selling for 10k or more, otherwise just keep them until you got something better, but you don't need to train them.

I'd try to look for some inexpensive trainees next season (though you'd want at least Star potential, preferably 3k+ salary). I wouldn't spend too much money on trainees though, as you'll need to learn to train them properly first. I'd spend at most 50k for 1, 75k total for 3 (keep in mind this is just my personal opinion, I know a lot of people here would suggest buying all-star or higher trainees but I don't think it's worth spending much money on them if you don't know how to make use of them).

I'd spend the most of my money on my arena, as that will be your steady source of income. Any investment in your arena will pay off in time, usually after 1 season. After that, you'll earn more than you've invested in it. I'd say invest about half your money in your arena.

Then save some money to find veteran players on the transfer list; younger than 32 years and at most 20k salary.

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236746.5 in reply to 236746.4
Date: 3/1/2013 6:03:24 PM
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If that is the case... Why not train some of these guys until I got the swing of training and then sell them for whatever I can get which will be all profit anyways and use that money to next offseason buy better trainees?

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236746.7 in reply to 236746.5
Date: 3/1/2013 8:24:55 PM
Woodbridge Wreckers
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You could do that too, but I've bought better trainees for 5k. I just thought it would be a good middle road, as most people here tell you to go all out right away.

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236746.8 in reply to 236746.7
Date: 3/1/2013 9:02:55 PM
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+1

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236746.9 in reply to 236746.6
Date: 3/1/2013 9:25:35 PM
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William Albert is very good, in my opinion. Even though he has missed a season of training, he could be worth training. He can be a solid SG with good secondary skills, salary efficient. I'd start training every skill once next season, maybe he has good sublevels.

Start with two weeks of passing, until it improves to 5
A week or two of 1v1 forwards until JS,HA,DR,IS all pop once.
A week or two of outside shooting until JR pops
Maybe even some ID and shotblocking for centers

If his sublevels are good, he might suddenly become solid trainee. Btw, are the starting scrubs counted as the teams own draftees? I mean, when it comes to merchandising sales


His SB is already at 7 why would you purposely train it higher?
I get the ID training, if the guy were to make Albert into an SF.... but with where his skills are already, he's probably more suited to just keep developing him as an SG or LI Guard. For him to be a functional SF he'd need rebounding, and that would 1. take time, and 2. burn salary.

No, with the pitiful rebounding, he's better off just rounding out his guard skills, maybe do some IS training and throw Balsiger on it if he doesn't get any draftees worth more than these bums, or if he doesn't buy some decent trainees.

Had he started the season with this team instead of ending the season with it, it would have been a quite different story... but timing is everything. He should find 3 18years and start there...

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236746.10 in reply to 236746.8
Date: 3/1/2013 10:08:06 PM
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build some arena, and keep the allstar guy for your third trainee and when draftees come up go for star-perrenial allstar potential guys that are less then 50k. Try and get guys in the Albert's height area that way they're good to train (6'4'' and under for the guards) then work on some passing and Outside defense to start off, that way the guys will be good passers and defenders (also would make you not worry about getting owned by better guards in D4) Just my 2 cents on this discussion.

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236746.11 in reply to 236746.10
Date: 3/2/2013 1:05:37 AM
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William Albert (29474474) Shooting Guard
Weekly salary: $ 3 952
Age: 18
Height: 6'4" / 193 cm
Potential: allstar
Game Shape: respectable
Jump Shot: average Jump Range: respectable
Outside Def.: respectable Handling: inept
Driving: respectable Passing: awful
Inside Shot: mediocre Inside Def.: inept
Rebounding: pitiful Shot Blocking: respectable
Stamina: respectable Free Throw: average

This player is fine as a 3rd trainee as he is an original player you will get a merchandising boost from having trained him and it is good to keep at least someone from your startup team. For training he needs OD, PA and JS. With luck you can draft a second trainable player. Then I would just buy a third one and for the third make sure he has at least superstar potential. Everyone will scream at me for saying this but I think you should buy a 19 year old. For peanuts you can pick up a 19 year old with better height, potential and skills than you will be able to afford in an 18 year old. In reality, the 19 year old with better starting skills and height is probably only six months behind the lesser 18 year old but everyone goes nuts over the 18s.

6'0" $5,000 salary 19 year old superstars will sell for less than 6'6" $3,500 18 year old perrenial all stars. If you are a new team that wants to train guards the first is much better.