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From: Rapses
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Date: 3/7/2013 11:53:48 AM
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Vasco Carvalho (28772799) Shooting Guard
Weekly salary: $ 3 686

DMI: 0
Age: 19
Height: 6'8" / 203 cm
Potential: superstar
Game Shape: respectable

Jump Shot: respectable (7) |||| Jump Range: mediocre (5)
Outside Def.: respectable (7)|| Handling: awful (3)
Driving: mediocre (5) |||||||||||| Passing: average (6)
Inside Shot: pitiful (2) |||||||||||| Inside Def.: inept (4)
Rebounding: mediocre (5) |||||| Shot Blocking: inept (4)
Stamina: pitiful (2) |||||||||||||||| Free Throw: average (6)

Experience: atrocious

I was thinking of making him a PF...

What do you think would be best?

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238052.3 in reply to 238052.1
Date: 3/7/2013 1:37:55 PM
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I would make him an sf

Switch off is and 1v1 forwards until is =8
Then Id until = 8
Then reb until =8
Then OD until =9
Passing until =6 (easy) then JS until =10


JS wingmen specifically

Last edited by ShadowSlam at 3/7/2013 1:39:33 PM

From: Tangosz

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238052.4 in reply to 238052.1
Date: 3/7/2013 2:15:35 PM
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I agree that if you commit to it, an SF is probably a better bet. However, SFs need so many skills, and so much training time, that losing a full year of training is going to hurt more than it would for other trainee types. He won't ever be a top-flight SF, but he can be solid for your team.

Definitely fix the low IS first, with IS @ center, and some 1v1 forwards in weeks with 2 just games. Realistically, you'll want at least 10 IS, so you have a ways to go.

Other than that, I'd want OD, PA, JS on my SFs. But it also depends on A) the tactics you want to be able to play, and B) what other players you are training him with.

And as far as jump shot wingmen, there's no difference in the skills trained between jump shot guards and jump shot wingmen. If you want some IS training at the same time as JS, then you need to do JS forwards.

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238052.5 in reply to 238052.4
Date: 3/7/2013 2:26:26 PM
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Wingmen vs others just let's you play your sf in his natural pos.

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238052.6 in reply to 238052.5
Date: 3/7/2013 2:28:36 PM
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true, there is that. good point.

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238052.7 in reply to 238052.5
Date: 3/7/2013 3:02:02 PM
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Wingmen vs others just let's you play your sf in his natural pos.

JS Forwards also allows him to play at his natural position.

I think the real question is who are the other guys he'd like to pick up extra training those weeks - are they guards or interior players? If they are guards, do JS training for wingmen and play the other trainees at SG. If they are bigs, do JS for forwards and play the other trainees at PF. Either way, the main trainee gets to stay at his natural SF spot.

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238052.8 in reply to 238052.7
Date: 3/7/2013 3:54:45 PM
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Wingmen vs others just let's you play your sf in his natural pos.

JS Forwards also allows him to play at his natural position.

I think the real question is who are the other guys he'd like to pick up extra training those weeks - are they guards or interior players? If they are guards, do JS training for wingmen and play the other trainees at SG. If they are bigs, do JS for forwards and play the other trainees at PF. Either way, the main trainee gets to stay at his natural SF spot.


The other thing is that JS Forwards sacrifices some training speed in JR but gives some training in IS.

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238052.9 in reply to 238052.8
Date: 3/7/2013 4:48:29 PM
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Remember though that there's a very different height coefficient for JS wingmen versus forwards. JS forwards is flat wrt height for JS, but negative for IS. So, it kinda stinks for getting tall guys much IS.

But as Alec points out, it might be more convenient to use the other slot for a PF, than a guard. All depends who else you are training your SF with.

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238052.10 in reply to 238052.9
Date: 3/7/2013 4:58:03 PM
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Remember though that there's a very different height coefficient for JS wingmen versus forwards. JS forwards is flat wrt height for JS, but negative for IS. So, it kinda stinks for getting tall guys much IS.


True, but a little IS is still more than zero IS, except for large values of zero. ;)


From: Rapses

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238052.11 in reply to 238052.9
Date: 3/8/2013 1:20:54 PM
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Thank you all for your insight,
I'm at the moment training him with my guards, although I'm at the moment training my guards in inside skills, (as those with very low ID were hurting me versus active teams with look inside strategy) I'm going to train him in the following weeks until at least "average" IS, and then see what my team needs in general...

I'm not trying to make money out of this player, but I want to make him a good long term player for my team. I was thinking PF to be able to retire mine in 2 seasons-3 seasons. But I might wait for the next draft to pick myself a very big player to fill that role, and train this guy as a good SF.