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I believe the majority of the people here would appreciate if something was done to improve the draft system (not change).

90% of draftees die during their first season. What's the point of polluting data base?

Here are few suggestions:

1. Better draftees in higher divisions.
Some will say it will make it harder for new comers. But
a) new comers don't know how to train anyway
b) people will be reluctant to tank knowing they can get better picks in higher divisions.
c) it's only natural that better players would put themselves up for drafts in better leagues in RL.
d) draftees who wouldn't be good for the highest league could be used in lower leagues instead of dying.
Example: number of balls would mean different potentials in different divisions. with 1 and 5 balls covering 2 potentials; 2-4 balls one each. thus:
Div1
1 ball = star, allstar
2 balls = perennial all-star
3 balls = superstar
4 ball = MVP
5 ball = HOF, ATG

Div2
1 ball = starter, star
2 ball= all-star

and so on..

2. No cap for 2-3 seasons regardless of potential.
Good for honing your training skills in the beginning.
You could make serviceable players out of draftees with any potential in lower divisions.

3. Increase the max skill level for 19yos draftees by 1.
or even have 20yos draftees as well with max skill level of proficient (9)

The best thing is none of these changes are hard to implement. It will NOT make BB too easy. It'll simply correct the pointlessness of generating never-will-bees 9 out of 10 times.

Please, post other suggestions here as well, thank you!

Last edited by thylacine at 3/22/2013 5:14:01 PM

Hi,
Your idea seems nice. Still, it shouldn't prevent teams in lower divisions to get a nice HOF pick aswell.

I just thought about another thing : having draft picks going with money in trading players (as it is IRL).
A team ranking in lower than 10th place in its league could provide a nice 2nd pick and not afford buying a useful but expensive player...
But how to get it along with the transfer bids ?
Is it cheating safe ?
cheers

So magically, Teams in the higher division have the ability to train 3 players a season? How man teams in your division, are actively training more then 1 18yo? So what is the point of reward them with more money, since many teams don't train or if they do, they don't train much? The higher division, already get higher TV contracts and gate receipts. Now they will get another reward of higher potential rookies to sell?

Suggestion 3, is the only thing I can get on board with.

I agree. The third suggestion is the only one i like but i like it a lot. It would be nice to see all those 19 year olds not get wasted.

If you train 3 rookies in higher division, you magically relegate.
Why would HOFs declare themselves for a draft in Div5?
The higher divisions should be an attractive proposition. Now, it's better to parachute down to the bottom of the leagues before leapfrogging back up, than trying to make ends meet in a tough Div3.
People don't train much, because it's unprofitable and good trainees are scarce therefore overpriced because 90% of the draft is garbage.

If you train 3 rookies in higher division, you magically relegate.

Then why given them better draftees?

Why would HOFs declare themselves for a draft in Div5?

Because this is a simulator, not real life. The players, don't care who they play for, as long as their check clears every week. When the money runs out, they become Free Agents (if the meet the criteria). Players, in this game, have zero ego, they couldn't care less who they play for.

The higher divisions should be an attractive proposition.

IT IS. It is financial better to be in higher leagues. Owners are always trying to move up the rungs on the ladder. As I said before, the players don't care, they have no emotional investment to any teams or leagues.

Now, it's better to parachute down to the bottom of the leagues before leapfrogging back up, than trying to make ends meet in a tough Div3.

Try it. Try relegating, see how easy it easy to get fans to show up, to keep your roster on less income, then hope you can win your league and promote back up. It is not as easy as think you it is.

People don't train much, because it's unprofitable

What how is it unprofitable? You had to have made that up.

and good trainees are scarce therefore overpriced because 90% of the draft is garbage.

Since they are scarce they would be priced accordingly, isn't that how supply and demand works?

You seem to be focusing #1 only for major nations.

Lets explore how that would work in the likes of Armenia, Japan, Ghana, etc

I honestly think one thing that would help is to get rid of all the potentials lower than allstar.

God forbid BB makes changes to resemble real life. Maybe you and some others would play BB if it simulated other things as well, but for me and many others it's interesting only because it's basketball.
So you don't have to explain that numbers don't have egos.
Of course it's better in higher leagues, but to get there you might have to sacrifice training, and you can forget about the existence of the draft!
The training is unprofitable because it doesn't get you into higher leagues, and often you have to pay for the trainees and the trainer more than what you'd pay for the final product.
Trainees are not priced accordingly because people are dreamers. If you compare their value to ready-made players you'll see they're overpriced.
People who tank don't try to keep their roster or promote straight back, they keep falling and accumulating money, getting draft picks in those 10%, until they feel they've got enough to release the catapult.

I don't wanna convince you. I just don't understand the purpose of creating 90% draft garbage, so I'm suggesting remedies.

In smaller nations it would look like Chekreyes suggestion. OMG they won't have bench warmers, I wonder if the whole system collapses then..

#2 just to clarify, since I'm getting no love for this point:

You could train all players until they turn 21 without hitting the salary cap.
So even an announcer could have prolific skills, which would be easily adequate in Div4,5.