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When you select group demonstration for scouting, does every team in your league get to look at the same players you do assuming they did group demonstration as well? For the position I assume to be in at the end of the season, I don't think group demonstration would be that great for me if everyone gets to look at the same players.

No,every information you get via scouting points are for you only.

I'm not sure I understand your exact question.

Any scouting you do will only be seen by you. There is nothing shared with other owners. They have to spend their own points to see anything.

All players are sorted differently for each owner in your league, but it's the same 48 players. So the guy who is listed as No. 1 for you might be 23rd for someone else and 34th for someone else, etc.

The order and grey ball ranking of players is different for every player. So for example, player #3 on your list may be player #43 for another player in your league. He may have a grey ball ranking of 5 balls for you and 2 balls for your league mate. So the prospects that are scouted by group demonstration are different for every team. The only thing that is the same is the rankings received after scouting. Let's say there's exactly one 6'11" 18yo player in your league. If both you and your league mate scout and interview him, you'll both see that he is (hypothetically) a SF with 4 ball skills, 5 ball potential and a B+ grade. But he may have been player #1 with an initial 5 grey ball ranking for your league mate and player #47 with 1 grey ball ranking for you that you discovered through group demonstration. Does that make sense or did I just make that way more convoluted and confusing?

Are you serious..? holy smokes man.. this need to change that.

If this is the case then, the games know what you need for the team to be better, why dont they just come out and say hey you nee a big man or better rebounds in a disclaimer, are the managers not paying. Whats the point of having scouts and scout don't help the team needs.. or even show these things

It defeats the whole purpose of a scout. this need to change to let teams sort out what they need. the draft should be huge thing, more indepth reports, dialogue, potential charts, best game worst games. player weakness, streanghts.. It shouldn't just be blind faith on potent alone.


Good luck to the op, because your going need a lot of it if using the drat to build a team.

First of all, please take a little bit of time to organize your thoughts coherently. My first glance at your post made my brain hurt so I nearly didn't read it, which I assume is how 99% of managers would have reacted. It was very hard to decipher your meaning, and I still have no idea what the second paragraph means ("If this is the case then...or even show these things")

To respond to your main point, the draft in real life can be more "in-depth". Buzzerbeater is not real life. It is a manager game. In real life (NBA for example), you can draft a player and he may have some skills that are NBA-ready. For example, a player may be drafted who already is an NBA-caliber defender, or able to rebound effectively, or has NBA range, etc. You get the point. In BB, the highest a player's skill can be at the draft is respectable. If you're in the NBBA, 7 in any primary skill is nowhere close to adequate. Players in real life can also have great potential due to their athleticism but be unable to harness it due to mental issues; in Buzzerbeater, the only thing that determines whether a player reaches his potential or not is the amount of minutes and the type of training he receives.

If you're proposing to change this, then you would have to adjust the maximum skills for draftees in each league (e.g. in a D.V draft, the highest a player's skills could be might still be 7; in the NBBA draft, it might be 17). The problem with that is that it would mean that you couldn't trade players across leagues. If a D.V team bought an NBBA rookie, for example, it would be completely unfair. So as theoretically nice and seemingly realistic as your idea might be, it just couldn't possibly be implemented into the game.

Unfair are you serious.? Not to be rude but at same time what's unfair is spending money 150k-250K a season blindly on player with fake skills and player potent lied about to the manager paying and getting a $1200 dud on draft night.

Teams in the highest leagues yes nbba getting a crap pick for 250k spent and breaking their backs to build and spending a avg 15-20 million to rebuild. Those teams tank with heavy team fines or down rite quit!!!... Save me the real life argument.. Every time some is looking for a escape goat they yell "this is not real life". if that is case then why bring it up, I said nothing about real life. Also if the manager is paying with real money to play in some cases , it sure is real life to them.!! I mean that in the upmost respect.

If a player like your talking about ever got made. No div 5 team could afford them, it would demand a 5-10 million+ price when its all said and done. No div5 team has that to buy that player. Nothing fair about playing matches with players . I have seen teams get beat 200+ to 22. I don't think playing tie is worth that kind of beating and embarrassment. You talking about fair?, the game system allows you to play these power team in which you no chance to win, how is that fair. exp , skill , minutes. and Tie , ethu gained?.. Not to be rude , but come on now.

Teams have a moral mood, playing a team you cannot win versus is doing you no good.. If he had the players from the draft in better quality, then maybe he could compete. If top team had the money then they wouldn't tank or quit. A lot top league team managers know how quick train players. So getting a player with hof or better potent and 8-9 ready skill is good in 3-4 season time, where will this player skill be.?

They will be about on par, that player can lead for the future and is worth all the effort of the 250k the manager put up. Its worth sitting in 7th place in nbba or top league knowing you have a player that take you to the top. They might cant find a good player in skill we are debating, but atleast let manager find a decent rebounder with enough skill and free throws to be worth a dam to help the team. Even if they sell its brings a healthy market to rebuild.

A lot of blind faith and crap shoot in bb draft .. I doubt the best team on the games like how the draft works.. The top league managers cant even use the draft. How is it fair.. why should anyone blow millions to stay in 8th place. The draft is suppose to help them , but yet and still it offers no depth, no chance or even some hope, In small it destroys them!.. If think Im lying look around you, teams are tanking left and right , the bb draft is suppose to help all, not just some.

Last edited by Mr. Glass at 7/13/2013 3:03:03 AM

Exactly what I was trying to say. +1

Every time some is looking for a escape goat they yell "this is not real life".

Actually, when I need an escape goat, I call my goat man Esteban. I find that in times where I need escape and only a goat will do, shouting "this is not real life" is among the worst strategies to pursue. If you're ever in need of an escape goat I can get you in touch with him or his local representatives for your area, though I feel honorbound to point out that I receive a 10% referral fee and that they're likely to start trying to upsell you on their more profitable donkey show business.

A lot of blind faith and crap shoot in bb draft .. I doubt the best team on the games like how the draft works.. The top league managers cant even use the draft. How is it fair.. why should anyone blow millions to stay in 8th place. The draft is suppose to help them , but yet and still it offers no depth, no chance or even some hope, In small it destroys them!.. If think Im lying look around you, teams are tanking left and right , the bb draft is suppose to help all, not just some.

Teams tanking has much, much less to do with the draft than you seem to believe. There are people who believe that the only way to progress in the game is to pile up money and the easiest way they see to do that is to maximize weekly profit by minimizing weekly outlays.

Maybe my transfer balance would be much lower if the BB draft was worth a dam not being rude. Yes I'm in lower league and the bb draft is not doing me anything favors.. I poured 900K into the draft in my time and every time crap a pick. So excuse me for spending 3.2 million from 4-5 league on top of the 900K. To better my team, I did would manager would do, I used the market and built my arena.

I'm buying talent for the future that I still have to train. I understand training dispite what you may think. Nothing wrong with allowing managers to see few strengths and weaknesses of the player in the draft.. If a team need rebounds , how are they going to know when the stat sheet say 2 rebounds gotten which 100% false to his true stats. Saying the player is AA+ 5/5 doesn't mean anything. Its still selling a manager a dream. He still don't know what the strengths are, and still will be wanting to fill a gap in weakness of team. He doesn't have to be a 5/5 player he can get a 3/3 C+ and the players strength is rebounds, Which the team would or could go after if that is the weakness of the team which is realistic to bb team building. How is that harmful or unfair.?

It has nothing to do with real life and everything to do with helping the bb draft become better. You darn right I take it hard because when time come to build in top league we got 3 choices . Tank, buy players on market for million or quit.. That should not be the way. Im saying not give all top teams Kareem Abdul Jabaar in the BB draft. Atleast let them and us see the a few strength and weakness so they can go after such player in better fashion.

So my pardon my care of concern for the betterment in BB draft.. Atleast I give a dam and no, I don't have to like it to give dam.



Last edited by Mr. Glass at 7/13/2013 5:07:53 PM