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From: Bballin
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Date: 9/20/2013 12:45:28 AM
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Alright the electio isnt over, but I figured getting this started for whoever becomes NT manager would be good, so roster discussion is up on the offsite, PLEASE leave any comments, and opinions in the thread. Please. http://w11.zetaboards.com/BB_ECU/topic/9153070/1/#new

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248500.2 in reply to 248500.1
Date: 9/24/2013 12:11:20 AM
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No idea why the thread was closed. I would have asked that question yesterday or earlier today if you responded to previous one. Inverted patient is based on luck and we both know it because it creates mess offensively.

Also, it is that approach that it is better to be safe than sorry the reason I would choose kozlik. i want Canada's NT to win something, and we are not the main favourites so without taking risk that is not going to happen. How mnay scrimmages with team on or close to NT level can you set after the allstar brake? Less then the tactics, let alone correcting found mistakes and trying different approach to same tactic.

I respect you greatly as manager, just dont think that you ahve enough experience for that transition period,, and I think that this transtion (addition of new elements) is our chance where risk needs to be taken and the best person to take it is the one with highest experience. For the term after that our stars will start declining and who knows how long it will take until we are so strong again? (here I have to say thanks to organizing training because thanks to you that time might come fairly soon, and thats why I think if both of you team up that would be perfect, but I would prefer if kozlik had final say on the tactics)

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248500.3 in reply to 248500.1
Date: 9/24/2013 12:11:31 AM
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A nice voter turnout, good debate, enjoyed this election process.

Anyways, plenty of discussion to be had offsite :) Hopefully we can pull out an americas gold this season!

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248500.4 in reply to 248500.3
Date: 9/24/2013 12:13:27 AM
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yeah, voter turnout was a positive thing. Bit dissapointed with debate though. Not many people inputting their opinions

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248500.5 in reply to 248500.2
Date: 9/24/2013 12:15:33 AM
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Closed due to the election ending.

There migh not be any after the ASB, but we can see the effects at the club level still. kozlik got 18 votes so it was close, got a lot more to prove this term..

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248500.6 in reply to 248500.5
Date: 9/24/2013 12:32:26 AM
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club level is completely different since you have small amount of players available and there is usually disbalance in skills, unless we are talking BBB/championship teams. I would still grant him access to off-site forum though

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248500.8 in reply to 248500.7
Date: 9/24/2013 3:03:00 AM
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I am pretty sure I explained why I didn't run in this elections and I think it take more guts to admit your own lack of skill/experience and step aside than just to enter your name.

And here is a definition of a debate for you: A formal discussion on a particular topic in a public meeting or legislative assembly, in which opposing arguments are put forward.
Dont know how I prevented any debate by inputing my own opinion since I am pretty sure thats what debate is all about. But of course you are entitled to express your opinion as well, and I am not hurt by it at all. Just dont agree that only candidates should have a word and rest of users got to shut up and ask a question once in a while

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248500.9 in reply to 248500.2
Date: 9/24/2013 10:02:35 AM
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It was to point out lack of experience in using other tactics at that level (your club team never reached highest level), which although was enough for this term (LI/m2m was the best choice), and thats why I said that I understand the results of last election, but looking at the changes which are about to be implemented they wont be enough for next term. Of course we can stick to the same thing, become predictable, win with weaker teams, lose with stronger and stay where we are, you can stay a manager and experiment (NT isnt for that), or we can go with kozlik for this term and try to go for it all (and either achieve something, or possibly fail miserably)


I think the opposite of what you're saying is actually true. IF bballin was lacking in experience with the proper game tactics, he would have been playing tactics other than LI/MM as most managers have concluded that these are the best tactics to play and they fit the players on the NT.

Bringing up future changes that will happen 1 season from now is unfair too because nobody here including yourself, myself, Kozlik and bballin knows exactly what differences those future changes will have on the game so I don't see where having more past experience is a great advantage in something we've yet to experience.

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248500.10 in reply to 248500.9
Date: 9/24/2013 11:18:52 AM
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come on now. It doesnt take much to figure out that LI was (is) the strongest up to this point.

And regarding future changes: if LI will still be dominant then you got a point, but what happens if suddenly we have to use RnG,isolations, PtB, motion? Dont you think that having more previous experience with those tactics would be a huge advantage?

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248500.11 in reply to 248500.10
Date: 9/24/2013 11:38:58 AM
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But you're basing your argument on a hypothetical, it's tough to criticize somebody based on something that hasn't even happened yet. That's all I'm saying.

Plus does having Naismith experience really give you, I or most of the managers on that level a huge advantage playing those other tactics? We both play LI in any important match right? I think the last time I truly experimented with other tactics on a game to game basis was in D3 and I'm betting that your situation isn't much different. Plus if they do make changes to the game engine we'll all be experimenting to see how those changes will have an effect on games.

Last edited by Beener not Beanerz at 9/24/2013 11:39:58 AM