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so i had an idea to make training easier, it wasnt well recieved, but i still think training is to hard here for the reward it gives, i know about the overextention tax, but that is not a benefit to someone who is financially ok and still training players, how about this, a player will have reduced salary based on two things

1. if player was trained by that team ex. lets say a player was bought by a team while his salary was 10k trained by that team, when he renogtiates his contract after being trained by that team it should be 15k at the end of the season, but the player will lower his salary by 10% for the amount that he was trained by that team so his salary is 14.5 (since that team only contributed to 5k of his salary, only that 5k is taken in to consideration, not the original 10k)

2. a player will give another 10% discount to the team that drafted him like a loyalty bonus, this means that if a player is supposed to have a salary of 10k from a team that both drafted and trained him he will reduce his salary by 10% for the training and 10% for being drafted (loyalty bonus), his actual salary will be 8k, but if he is sold to a new team, the player will immediatly renagotiate his contract to 10k

so thats my idea, tell me what you think

While I am for this, due to the fact that I have trained many of my own players.... and throw the others onto the 2-pos stuff...

I already make: $13,861 a week, this was after I (last week), purchased a player that adds; $79,892 to my team salary.

I have the following players that I drafted and trained from scratch:
Eric Marks $ 10,421, starting salary was 1,158 when I drafted him. Your proposal saves me 2K from this guy alone.
Burt Branch $ 8,929, starting salary 2700-2800, your proposal saves me about 1,500
Donald Luwa $ 10,431, started around 3,400, your proposal saves me 1,700
Sean Clark $ 8,946, started 2700, your proposal saves me 1,500

Add in that I already have stockpiled over "Training Exemption: $ 29,851" to my training exemption. This is not including the training from this season.

I would appreciate the extra 7k + a week... however, I feel that my opponents would be less than thrilled by "the rich getting richer", My team was a playoff team prior to adding the 80K player, he is just to "ensure" the promotion, or attempt to anyways. I am still in the positive with money, still making a profit, not even selling out my arena yet.

MY POINT BEING
I don't think training needs to get any easier, training is easy enough as is... but I do like the idea of this, though, I feel that for those who actually partake it provides a major major advantage over others. Especially if you consider due to these "discounts" I *may* be able to acquire a player whom's salary is "technically" higher than what my world rank should allow me to have.

Edit:
Also, since it does give you a 10% break....
I feel this would bring back the mono-skill trained players, those 2-3 hundred thousand, legendary IS, ID, RB and atrocious everything else, players. As now, they'd be saving 10% of their salary, making them more affordable to make these ridiculous players.

Last edited by ShadowSlam at 6/7/2014 3:44:39 PM

thats some good points there.

the idea is a pretty good idea in that it just takes the similar idea that is happening with the training exemption and applies it to the salary of the player. I quite like it.

I know what you mean by the '"the rich getting richer" statement. But its a rule that would be applied to everyone, not just tankers or those in a position to buy lots of players of type X. Everyone has the opportunity to have trainee's and as such, everyone would get the benefit.

bring back the mono-skill trained players

actually its funny you mention this, because i have a theory the over-extenstion tax is going to do this as well.

Um, I'm new. What is the training exemption? What is the overextension tax?

a couple of seasons ago, BB introduced a tax, called the 'Over Extension Tax'.

What teams were doing, is they were buying up big massive rosters of players with huge salaries and running their team at a loss for weeks, months, or even the whole season in order to win.

SO their tactic was - tank for a few seasons, save up a big pile of money, and then 'over-extend' themselves at some point during the season (maybe the whole season) - run their economy at a loss - but essentially they would win all their games and the finals.

It was one of the ways teams would tank-then win and promote.

In an effort to stop this, BB introduced a tax.

If your team is running at a loss (that is, your weekly economy) - you get taxed on that over-extension. at a 50% tax rate.

So for instance, if your weekly loss is $50k, then your tax would be $25k, making your total weekly loss = $75k.

This makes it much more expensive to tank and then overextend urself for a season.

You can avoid paying some or all of the tax by having 'training exemptions'. Any salary increases in a trainee (ie: you train one guy for one season, his salary goes up $20k) - that salary increase can be used as an offset against the over-extension tax.
So if we use the above example, your $25k overextension tax would be offset by $20k training exemption, thus your overall tax would only be $5k. So your weekly loss would be $50k + ($25k - $20k) - $55k.

Hope that helps!

That does help. Where is the training exemption indicated? Does it last all year or just a one time deduction? Does it change every time your players salary increases? Why isn't this information in the game manual or New Player Threads?

Dear Lord! Why would you build so many bleachers??

Lasts all season d then updates during the off season
do the more training u do the more exemption u have.

if u keep thst playrr the amount u trained is with u as long as that player is on ur roster.

U can see it on ur teams economy page.

Yer looks like its not in the game manual. Its only a new feature so perhaps suggest an update to the manual?

i dont know if you edited your original post or if ive lost my mind. I read this again today and i was like "oh this is a pretty neat idea".

then i realised, that ive already commented on this a week ago.

But seriously, i cannot for the life of me remember reading it, or commenting on it.

So maybe you edited it? for the sake of my sanity im going to assume this.

Either way, i like the OP's original idea.

The game does already have concepts of 'rewarding' training and keeping of trainee's, (merchandise, training exemption) - Id like to see perhaps these already in place mechanisms perhaps enhanced a bit more before any new benefits put in.

But essentially the result would be the same (ie: More merchandise = more money ....same as your idea - Less salary = more money).

im just curious coach regan about the thing that you mentioned of teams running their economy to huge losses per week just to promote. what if your balance is so far the negative , lets say above 700k and even near 1M, what happens to your team, does it get bankrupt and you become a bot?

what if your balance is so far the negative , lets say above 700k and even near 1M, what happens to your team, does it get bankrupt and you become a bot?

if your bank balance is negative yes

If your weekly loss is $1m? no

eg: lets say my bank balance is $50m. i can run a negative weekly balance of $1m for 50 weeks before i lose all my money.

So generally, what teams do, is tank, save up a few million (eg: In the top division you can save approx $2m in one season by salary floor, no staff, no building arena, low merch etc etc). Then run at a loss the entire following season.