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From: LTJ
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Date: 8/7/2014 12:57:20 PM
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How many draft/scouting points do you need if you are going to get a top 3 draft pick?
The combine is 10 points. How many do you need above that?

From: MP5

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261973.2 in reply to 261973.1
Date: 8/7/2014 1:05:14 PM
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However many/few that you want, however I wouldn't recommend investing more than 10k/week in it. The more you invest, the better chance of finding the gold that's hidden in the dirt and rubble that is the draft. Then again, others argue you can better use that money buying a player off the TL.

Personally, I prefer drafting and training my own players, so I'm completely disregarding my own advice and investing 40k/wk in my Utopia team since it started (my main team is back to just 10k, and I'm not even using the points I'm just stockpiling them until I want to in the future). There is an optimal or "best" answer, and then there's whatever you find most fun, and who's to say that's not right.

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261973.3 in reply to 261973.2
Date: 8/7/2014 5:45:30 PM
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Ok but how many points do you 'need'? I'm looking for a number.
You need 10 if you want to pay for combine and then an additional...2,3,4,5??

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261973.4 in reply to 261973.3
Date: 8/7/2014 6:34:53 PM
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Is this what you're looking for? http://www.buzzerbeater.com/community/rules.aspx?nav=Draf...

Scouting Combine = 10 points
Group Demonstration = 10 points
Scout = 1 point
Interview = 2 points

In addition to this the draft has changed this year, which you can read about in the news.

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261973.5 in reply to 261973.3
Date: 8/7/2014 6:40:53 PM
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Need to do what? How many you need is completely dependent upon what you want to do - no one can provide a number for you based on what you have said so far.

How much information do you want on each of the players available in the draft? Are you looking for a specific type of player? A position? height? age? potential? skills?

Prior to the new options introduced this season, if you wanted to find out everything you could about every player in the draft, you needed 135 points. That would allow you to do the group workout, individually scout the other 29 and then interview every one. There is no reason to do the combine if you are interviewing everyone.

With the new options, you now need 185 points to get every piece of information on every player.

Of course, very few people would argue that you would ever 'need' to know everything about every player in the draft. But need is a personal evaluation, not an objective concept.

Last edited by Alec Burke at 8/7/2014 6:42:36 PM

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261973.6 in reply to 261973.1
Date: 8/7/2014 7:46:44 PM
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If i had to give a number, id say 30. Any less than that, you wont get to see any potential. But that is the very minimum, and you may run out before you find what it is your looking for.

But you can spend 50+ and still not find what you after. So its always a risk/reward i guess.

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261973.7 in reply to 261973.5
Date: 8/7/2014 8:22:34 PM
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This is exactly what I was after. Thank you. 185 is the most I'd need.

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261973.8 in reply to 261973.1
Date: 8/7/2014 10:29:41 PM
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If you have a look at previous season's draft's, you will find that in the first round, most people get their 1st, 2nd or 3rd preference.

So in terms of getting one of your top 3 preferences in the first round, its nearly a given, regardless of when you pick in the first round.

In terms of being guaranteed to pick one of the best 3 players in the draft though, that would require you to scout and interview everyone in the draft, which is basically 3 x 48 = 146 scouting points. That would cost $730k dollars to get that many points for this season.
Points carry over from season to season, so if you really wanted to do this, you could do it over a few seasons. I don't recommend utilizing 146 points on the draft through.

In general, I think most people who spend their skill points wisely, and in a tactical manner, will spend about 35-40 points per draft, in order to get enough information out of the draft that their top 4 or 5 picks are well known to be of top quality.



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261973.9 in reply to 261973.7
Date: 8/8/2014 4:46:38 AM
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I advice you stop looking for simple numbers for the answers you're looking for, because Buzzerbeater is a complex game. Be specific about your questions and try to not ask too many questions which you can find out yourself; if you want to know how many scouting points it takes to scout the whole draft, that you can calculate yourself. If you ask what is a good amount of points to spend if you have the 3rd pick, that's a whole other question and is subject to opinion, unlike the first question. If you ask for simple numbers, you won't get any wiser because you don't know that's the reason why people give that number.

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261973.10 in reply to 261973.9
Date: 8/8/2014 4:57:33 AM
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I think its an innocent enough assumption to think that the game is straight forward and I remember when I was a new user, it was like "How come people know this info and I don't, it must be written somewhere that i haven't discovered yet"

.....like finding out that there is no magical number for gameshape maangement.

But yes, its advisable to all new users that - the game is not straight forward and that there is no definitive answer, most conepts int he game are subjective and not concrete and what works in some situations won't work for others - Like the 203 zone defence haha.

Some people won't like this about games and will leave - those who crave the knowledge and power and ultimate in frustration, will stay! :)


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261973.11 in reply to 261973.10
Date: 8/8/2014 5:06:06 AM
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Yeah certainly, I kinda see a difference in people; they are either business minded or technically minded. The business people are used to make decisions with imperfect information, and to make choices between options that each have their pro's and con's. They are also used to face dilemmas. Technically minded people look for an optimum, the best possible answer. They think that if they figure out what is behind the problem, they can find the best 1 solution.

In this view, Buzzerbeater is more of a business game. Some parts might have an optimal point in a vacuum, but in the overall scheme of the game, there is no 1 best way of doing things. It can be hard for people with a different mindset to function in another situation; I had to learn it too as I have a technical background, but I'm now in a business job.