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122 teams are potentially eligible to promote via regular season record.
There gonna be 6 League Champions outside the top 128 so 6 spots are allready taken.

68 League Champions will promote directly. That means the top 60 Teams from the regular season will promote for sure.
(At least 12 have to promote this way as there are leagues with multiple high record teams and just 1 champ)
These are:

* alll teams with 22:0 record
* alll teams with 21:1 record
* teams with 20:2 record and > 850 diff.

Now comes the tricky part. The more teams out of these fixed promoter (max. 48) win their respective leagues the more teams can slip into their promotion-spots. Potential candidates:

* remaing teams with 20:2 record < 850 diff. (39 teams)
* teams with 19:3 record and > 640 diff. (9 teams)

up to 12 additional teams may promote, if there are league champions from the 48 above who would allready promote via bot-promotion because top 60 teams won their leagues.

* teams with 19:3 record and diff. < 641 and > 560

I hope i these numbers are correct, but there is allways a slim chance for personal failure


edit: i just realized that there are fewer spots for potential replacments because of the 12 non champ promotions. changed that!

edit #2: There are actually 6 teams (not 3) with low record who will win their respective leagues. changed that


edit #3: I had a mistake in my version 1.0 and i upgraded to 2.0. I had ro revert my first edit, and modified those 12 spots. There should be a chance for those teams to be one of the 48 bot-promoting teams outside the top 60

Last edited by TKOK at 9/29/2014 4:18:36 PM

So D.IV promotion is no longer Champ + losing Finalist and then best records across all of D.IV? It's now just Champ + best records?

Seems like I'm guaranteed to promote then. Just have to figure out ticket pricing if I don't get the normal promotion boost from winning the league.

Thx a lot ! Great job doing those calculations.

Hopefully all the teams that already secured promotion will go after their championship so that my 20:2 +586 team will promote. Let's do the job guys !!

You can see the reference here: (257780.120).
There is the standard Bot Replacment Rules in place.

There are currently 11 teams in Utopia .IV that are undefeated. Based on 12 automatic promotions, all undefeated teams are moving on up.

Sorry but there are some errors here.

There are 68 Div IV league with human teams in them. There are 128 teams spots will open in Div III with 64 demoting and 64 moving up to Div II. With 68 league winners moving up there leaves 60 spots for none league winners to make the jump to Div III.

There are 13 teams with a 22 and 0 record

65 Utopian Huskies 22 0 1118
33 Jack and cola 22 0 956
55 Bovine Mentality 22 0 943
6 Utopia 75ers 22 0 915
45 Rapid Wombats 22 0 796
66 Sky Team 22 0 790
41 Silver Dragons 22 0 788
27 SNAKE MILANO II 22 0 746
30 Leccesi 22 0 742
24 Wunder Bozz 22 0 733
20 Men for all Seasons 22 0 667
34 CSKA 1948 Troyan 22 0 655
59 Infinite Pwnage 22 0 624


There are then 45 teams with a 21 and 1 record. That takes 58 spots. So to make sure you make Div III for sure you need a record of 20 and 2 and a PD of better then Yeahh II 20 2 888
If your record if worse then that you need so many teams above to win their league.
Here are the next 60 teams who are the only ones who have any chance of making Div III without winning. Last one needs all the top sides to win. But the issue there is a number of leagues had 2 teams with 21 1 records. So the last few really have no chance.

10 king Utopia 20 2 868
10 The Cove 20 2 842
7 TigyAsparagus 20 2 828
48 Ferro TEAM II 20 22 820
23 Mazzini Bas Birds II 20 2 817
29 Rude Geje 20 2 813
44 Unicorn Blasters 20 2 810
14 Bestfreind II 20 2 776
3 Stinki Tomatoes 20 2 766
32 ChiLeaders 20 2 764
25 How do you say 20 2 750
3 Beast 20 2 731
14 Gliese 51 G Dragons 20 2 700
2 Red Sharks 20 2 698
1 Utopia Lakers 20 2 696
22 DF2 20 2 694
4 Totally Addicted 20 2 685
36 Carnica Endover 20 2 675
51 Creme Fraiche 20 2 661
56 Sydney Sea Eagles 20 2 646
43 Mista Crew 20 2 641
49 Universal Nezus 20 2 641
56 Texeira Cokays 20 2 634
42 Thunder- Havré 20 2 626
42 Brzesztotem po jajach 20 2 625
1 Berlin Mavericks 20 2 617
36 La Paillade 20 2 612
13 BluesExplosion 20 2 586
47 lakey II 20 2 585
47 spartans team II 20 2 580
41 BobRyneDadaCat II 20 2 560
45 JDA Dijon Pro A 20 2 560
35 Espantajáparos 20 2 551
25 Buckminsters best book 20 2 544
60 Agora Vai 20 2 537
21 RisatKing II 20 2 512
49 Old Town BC 20 2 479
18 Wildcats Ravenna 20 2 466
57 Papaye Basket 20 2 449
19 Aurora City Bulls 20 2 431
39 Delikates 19 3 800
39 Beware of Puppies 19 3 798
29 Bamboo Sprouts 19 3 783
50 World Wanderers 19 3 760
3 Jedula Basetball Team 19 3 752
55 the 4th Slap 19 3 739
33 Dodor Inc 19 3 709
37 Sirty Hedgehogs 19 3 695
50 RBC Pyszyn 19 3 679
16 Punxsutawney 19 3 669
38 H.A.W.T. 19 3 666
39 SQBB-FOREVER II 19 3 664
45 Breisach Huskies 19 3 641
5 Bc Kaaos II 19 3 636
11 Better Call Sual! 19 3 629
5 White Chocolates II 19 3 628
15 Skoda 19 3 627
8 Nightwish BC 19 3 625
9 Woodville Tron Pigs 19 3 624
12 Utopia Glasitators 19 3 601

Actually it is possiable these 8 teams make it also. Providing all 68 leagues winners are from within these list.

48 Uncle Drews Pepsi Crew 19 3 599
19 CrazyCrabs 19 3 594
12 NAG1 II 19 3 584
54 BC Play-Off 19 3 571
25 Ice Break Beaches 19 3 565
27 Pelevialli II 19 3 557
44 Thanatos To Team II 19 3 541
40 Franken Baskets 19 3 517



Top 128 records by human teams in Div IV


Last edited by Mickyster at 9/29/2014 2:03:12 PM

Actually it is possiable these 8 teams make it also. Providing all 68 leagues winners are from within these list.

48 Uncle Drews Pepsi Crew 19 3 599
19 CrazyCrabs 19 3 594
12 NAG1 II 19 3 584
54 BC Play-Off 19 3 571
25 Ice Break Beaches 19 3 565
27 Pelevialli II 19 3 557
44 Thanatos To Team II 19 3 541
40 Franken Baskets 19 3 517



Top 128 records by human teams in Div IV

Really?

Check out your list if you have a complete one. There are 3 Leagues where the winner will have a record worse than 19:3
IV.31, IV.67, IV.68
These Teams will kick 3 teams out of your list. There can be only 65 Leaguewinners on your list.
Additionally they are as i mentiond 12 teams who are on your list, but have no chance of winning their respective leagues (multiple 21:1 and/or 22:0 in said league). So you got to remove another 12 from your list.
Leaving the number as i mentiond 113 . (128-3-12)

Why the only 12? Where does that come from?
I know there are leagues with records less then 19 wins.
68 teams win and take 68 of 128 spots

60 spots left for the rest.

Why the only 12? Where does that come from?
I know there are leagues with records less then 19 wins.
68 teams win and take 68 of 128 spots

60 spots left for the rest.

Ok i admit an small error, but different than you think.
There are actually 6 leagues where the winner will be outside the bot-promotion zone.
That eliminates another 3 slots. Where the potential 12 non winning top-60 teams have no big influence on the outcome (your point?)


Promotions 2.0:

league champions (68):
0-62 teams inside the top 122 (0-48 teams inside the top 60)
6-68 teams outside the top 122 (at least out of leagues: IV.9, IV.31, IV.54, IV.64, IV.67, IV.68)

via regular season record (60):
12 inside the top 60 (they cannot win their league because there is another team within the top 60, so at least one of them has to promote via league record)
48 teams inside the top 122 who can follow up if higher ranked teams win their leagues

So the actual cut for possible bot-promotion is 122th placed team with 19:3 and diff. of >560
(This could be inacurrate, but as far as i know thats #122)


Last edited by TKOK at 9/29/2014 3:48:06 PM

nice
i guess we looked at it differently and saw some little different things

the main point is I need to win to make it with my poor 18 and 4 season
haha

but i still have a chance