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264129.1
Date: 10/18/2014 2:20:37 AM
Kira Kira Koseki
ABBL
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This is an idea that's been in the back of my mind for quite a while now, but until now there hasn't enough of a reason for me to put in the considerable effort. But now that I'm in the ABBL in a season where there doesn't appear to be any tanking teams, I have more reason than ever to try and put this together.

Some may remember a forum post I made a couple of years ago (221742.1), where I used BB game analyser to look at the shooting data for Rudolph Radford in one ABBL season where he made 50% of his three point attempts despite having low JS and JR. This project would be like that, but on a much bigger scale; every player who gets a reasonable amount of playing time in the ABBL this season, analysing all 176 games of the regular season. And not necessarily just shooting data either, I'd like to be able to analyse defence based on how opposing players tend to perform against any one player. Maybe other areas of the game too...

It is a tall task indeed, and one that I'm not sure I'll be able to see through. Still, if there's enough interest for this sort of project I will try my best. Because if I can see it through I think it would give us a great insight into who the best players in the ABBL really are. We can make rough guesses based on the stats we are given already, but we cannot answer specific questions like "Who's the best mid-range shooter?", or "Who's the best lock-down defender?". Those are the sorts of questions I'd like to be able to answer by the end of the season.

And maybe we'll even be able to create ABBL rosters with realistic ratings in NBA 2K with the data afterwards ;). But anyway, let me know what you think about the idea...

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264129.2 in reply to 264129.1
Date: 10/18/2014 10:32:26 AM
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how do u plan to gather your stats?

sounds like data from BB-game analyzer?

As a suggestion, you would need to capture DMI each week to take into account game shape into the equation.

I started doing this last season, as I wanted to analyse... erm.... something.... what was it.... oh, i had a theory about what types of shots DR is involved with and how much it contributed to them (eg: Dunks) .... but the GS issue was present, i needed to capture the individual's DMI each week, which was cumbersome and I missed it sometimes and yer. etc etc.

big task. whats ur straetgy?

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264129.3 in reply to 264129.2
Date: 10/18/2014 11:13:12 AM
Kira Kira Koseki
ABBL
Overall Posts Rated:
780780
Second Team:
Yubi Yubi
In regards to what I want to do, I don't think I need to track DMI.

My goal is simply to break down performances over the course of one season into more advanced statistics than those shown in game. So for shooting, the basic stats are FG% and 3PT%, but using Game analyser I can break this down into close-range %, mid-range % and long-range %, and then go even further and break those down into each individual shot type that exists in the game. By doing this, I can then answer many questions about the league this season that I wouldn't normally be able to, such as 'Who was the best at driving lay-ups in the season 29 ABBL?'

Seeing Stone Slashers give up a WO, and Chelsea Seagulls throw his scrubs out, has put a real dampener on my ambitious plans. In light of this, I think I'll scale back my goals for this project a little bit and focus solely on advanced shooting data for every regular player in the league.

Shooting percentage has somewhat of a soft cap in this game, so games where one team puts out a bad line-up affect the overall data a lot less, and this can be even further mitigated by separating the shot charts into 'unassisted' and 'assisted', because the winning team in such games tends to generate a lot of assisted shot attempts which drives their shooting percentage up.

Last edited by Jay (OTT) at 10/18/2014 11:30:29 AM

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264129.4 in reply to 264129.3
Date: 10/18/2014 10:26:38 PM
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Yer ok so basically do a seasons worth of game analyzer for ABBL.

why dont u do last season for ur own team as a trial?

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264129.5 in reply to 264129.1
Date: 10/20/2014 7:00:41 AM
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sounds kool big ups