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answer me bb ppl
it was a cup game and wth happened!
http://www.buzzerbeater.com/match/81818859/boxscore.aspx
last seasons final game
now this?
i am asking myself why am still playing this game

Home Court Advantage, more enthusiasm and you had 31 minutes with that guy (34131299) on the court due to an injury to your 5th good player.

Very good, however I thought all you wrote was meant to be reflected in a team's rating (HCA should be, Enth and effort should be, minute splits should be). Is it not the case?

Shall we just admit that team ratings are not reflecting the current GE very effectively in some cases? And if they don't reflect one or more of the features above then they should be modified so that they do.

Exactly what kind of pointers can you take from the game above? The game manual is very clear about ratings and what their purpose is. If they can't be used for their stated purpose, why do we even have them in the game?

Last edited by Lemonshine at 2/26/2015 4:23:03 PM

That's all fine, if you get a hole at SG due to injury your ratings shouldn't be far superior to the offensive rating. OD and oustside shooting weigh the SG heavily. Besides look at the PG (H) scoring 10 points on 9 shots and tell me how that makes sense with the 68/100 shooting rating, opposed to 6 points on 17 shots and 99/100 scoring rating for the PG (A).

I believe there are caps on shooting %s, even for inside offenses. caps on % of shot types etc.

This would make sense, but you'd expect it to be reflected in the ratings wouldn't you?

My question is what good are ratings for if they can't be used to draw conclusions on a game? This might not be the best example, as it was a 138-131 bbstats so yes still relatively close even ratings-wise.

Last edited by Lemonshine at 2/27/2015 3:44:07 AM

kidding? )
i played every game with easy ))

I'll turn your question around, and ask what good is a game if the statistically superior side always won??

I mean, the ratings show that he had slightly better defence (over the course of the game as a whole I might add, chances are he had much better D with his good SG healthy, and slightly worse D when he was injured, averaging out to slightly better). He had better scoring, but worse flow. And yeah, as Trainerman pointed out, worse FT shooting.

So why would I bother to play a game if the ratings determine the winner every time and there are no upsets? That's not fun. There's no suspense there, let it just be a mathematical equation. This is a slight upset - and I do stress slight. I've seen much worse. And we should. Lord knows it's realistic! Look at the NBA for example and how many crazy results there are ... yes it doesn't happen all the time, but over the course of an 82 game season (1230 games total?), you're bound to see probably dozens.

If this happens once or twice, that's the way it's supposed to be. If it starts happening multiple times to the same team, then I'd argue there's probably a fundamental flaw with that team (such as very low FT shooting, or poor team passing leading to a poor flow etc) that is holding it back from winning even though the ratings might be mostly better. If it happens repeatedly, again and again, without any team flaw being diagnosable, then maybe we'd have something to talk about.

I'll turn your question around, and ask what good is a game if the statistically superior side always won??

This is 1 part of the reason. Besides that; YOU CANNOT DRAW CONCLUSIONS FROM 1 GAME. That is the law of statistics. You don't have to be a genius to understand that you cannot draw conclusions if your sample size is 1.

People seem to forget this the moment they lose a game in which their team is better. Yes, the ratings tell you your team is better, that is what you think too right? So the ratings are more or less accurate, it would be strange if they showed the other team is better (overall, not just this game) while you know you have the stronger team right? That's why you post here.

Then the question becomes, why does the better team lose a game? That is easy to answer, the GE is made to be partially random, so the better team doesn't always win and your players don't have the same stats every single game. So by having a slightly better team, say you have 60% chance to win the game and the other team has 40% to win. The ratings reflect that. It's still possible the other team wins because that 40% happens too.

Last edited by Jeründerbar at 2/27/2015 4:30:09 AM

Playing easy has its drawback, it's not free gift of enthusiasm.

And that is reflected in the defensive and rebounding ratings.