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Date: 3/8/2015 8:22:42 PM
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I dont want to criticise BB really, even this gripe is minimal but im starting to track the all time stat leaders for my team and second choice players have great totals because of the needed minutes management of starters.

It does seem a bit crazy that my second choice players play 5-10 more league games a season and non of my starters will be league stat leaders because I manage my minutes well..

I like having minute management, it adds another dimension to Buzzerbeater but only being able to have your starters start 1 of the two league games a week is a bit frustrating.

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268213.2 in reply to 268213.1
Date: 3/8/2015 8:31:30 PM
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oops forgot to put my suggestion in.. my suggestion would be to change the minutes needed for good game shape depending on the player 'role'..

So starters could play a little more and role players a little less, not drastic increase/reduction, maybe ten minutes? Interested to hear what other people think because I guess in higher leagues having game shape management as it is increases competition?




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268213.3 in reply to 268213.1
Date: 3/8/2015 8:33:25 PM
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I like having minute management, it adds another dimension to Buzzerbeater but only being able to have your starters start 1 of the two league games a week is a bit frustrating.


Why can't you start them twice? If you have a good team with decent enough depth, you should be able to start most/all of your starters two games and they should get around 30ish minutes per game and 50-70 minutes for the week, which is what is ideal for minute management. I guess if you have no depth/backups on your team then they will probably play 40+ minutes for the game and get into GS issues, but teams with good rosters don't have this problem. Why you are playing your best players in only one league game a week but then suiting them up to play lots of minutes in scrimmages does not make sense to me. With only 11 players on your roster, I don't think you want/need to play scrimmages every week and you definitely do not need to play your starters in them.

Last edited by E.B.W. at 3/8/2015 8:37:45 PM

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268213.4 in reply to 268213.3
Date: 3/8/2015 8:38:13 PM
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Which is fine but roster depth takes time/money. For those in lower leagues, rebuilding or new to the game that is often not possible

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268213.5 in reply to 268213.4
Date: 3/8/2015 8:44:18 PM
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Okay, but that does not mean that this is an issue. I still don't understand why you think you cannot start your players for two games in league-play, yet you start them in meaningless scrimmages. That is the bigger issue. If you simply do not schedule scrimmages, or only play your 3 worst players in the scrimmages that need more minutes, then you can pretty easily get the right amount of minutes for your starters between the two league games (This week is different due to it being a short week on the allstar break).

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268213.6 in reply to 268213.5
Date: 3/8/2015 8:49:21 PM
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Even with decent backups starters are likely to hit 70+ when started in two league games, in my experience. Especially with certain opposition.

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268213.7 in reply to 268213.6
Date: 3/8/2015 8:55:13 PM
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Then I think you are slightly misinformed, as many teams at the top can run a 10 man rotation and keep all their players in good GS, without training GS. Even if you are afraid of your starters getting too many minutes, for one of your league games you can just set them at a backup position instead, rather than not playing them at all. I looked at your best player's minutes and 4 of the last 5 weeks he has had 70+ minutes because you are playing him in scrimmages/cup games. Why not get him 70+ minutes in two league games opposed to 70+ minutes in one league game and a meaningless scrimmage? In my experience setting a player at the backup position (even if they are much much better than the starter) will only get 25-30ish minutes MAX and it is generally less than that. That means if you start them for one game and they get 36 minutes as the starter, and then set him as a backup for the other league game, it will be very very rare for him to get above 70 minutes.

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268213.8 in reply to 268213.7
Date: 3/8/2015 9:13:16 PM
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Not that simple when you then have to balance the rest of the teams minutes in a scrimmage after though, maybe fine for top teams running 10 man rosters but difficult to run a team like that in the lower divisions and maintain game shape.


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268213.9 in reply to 268213.8
Date: 3/8/2015 9:19:28 PM
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*sigh* okay, if you say so. I will respectfully disagree, but I have given my opinion and made my statements, so you can wait for more opinions from other people. I'm curious to see what they say as well! I appreciate your ideas on trying to improve aspects of BB.

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268213.10 in reply to 268213.9
Date: 3/8/2015 9:32:40 PM
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Not really a problem (if you read my first post) more something I realised seemed to be happening when i started looking at longer term numbers for individual players and thought could be improved but I guess we'll see if its just me that juggles minutes like that.

Sometimes the two bob attitude of established managers is pretty damaging to this game

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268213.11 in reply to 268213.10
Date: 3/8/2015 9:48:13 PM
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I apologize if my attitude came across as rude. That was not my intention. I was more trying to understand what your thought processing was for your lineup setting for your league games and scrimmages, as your method did not make a lot of sense to me... I always appreciate suggestions about the game and GS/minute issue suggestions are aplenty in BB, so you are not alone, in having issues (or seeing trends) with it. I personally do not think juggling minutes is as hard as sometimes presented, but I understand that many other people are on your side too. Once again, my condolences if I came across as a crude established manager, I was not trying to.

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