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Is there any chance you can train a 18y player to be a NT-player after you had trained him to be a monster/star in u-21 NT?

I like your post!

Yes, there is.

If you take a look at the current german NT, there are some former U21 players who played for my U21 teams (Broszeit, Gottlieb, Mackensen, Jägermeister).

Broszeit is the best example. With 20 years, he already was part of the U21 team. His inside skills were already high enough. With 21y he had a salary of 100k (3x15 inside skills) and was the centerpiece of the team. Now he is one of the most successful players in the NT history of Germany.

Same goes for Guards or Forwards. The question is always, is the manager ready to sacrifice his team or a part of his success? Most of the time it's really hard to train a player outside of his position and be successful.

I see! :)
Can you say how a trainingplan can look like for a player like Broszeit to reach 3x15 to u-21 NT?

Thanks for your answer! I hope the swedish community can take ideas from this.

Rosen?????

Following this path to train primary skills first - is one sacrificing some of the secondary skills?

Say my C (224 CM) - if I train his inside first and then move to fill the gaps in the secondaries - I am losing roughly 20-40% efficiency in training. Looking to the training simulator (the US-offsite one), efficiency is at 80% at age 22 and the outside skills are penalized heavily by his length.

Playing around with the training speeds using the US offsite coefficients (assuming everything being equal and no elastic effects) makes me worried that one loses all possibility of training secondaries after 20 here. The image shows the number of weeks it would take for my player to pop using the best option for training:

7"4 player: http://i.imgur.com/O7n4g4w.png
6"0 player: http://imgur.com/TUVDFWE

I mean - training OD (considered a key skill) after 21 means adding 2 weeks of training to reach one pop....










Last edited by Randy Maus at 11/26/2015 5:26:13 PM

Hrm I do see your overall point but I am still skeptical about some aspects. Lots to think about and test out ! Thanks for the great insider info!

If you keep the OD too low (<6-7) - all players will be burn you as the game tactic will adjust to take advantage of the mismatch so it should be worth to ensure that the opponent has to play a balanced games rather than just abusing your main weaknesses.

If waiting until the later years to plug the secondary holes then one must sacrifice game shape as you'd want to play the player in his natural position for the key game and then play him again out of position to train him. This feels like a poor strategy (especially with the new changes).

I still feel that one would maximize the utility of a high potential player by first creating an all-around base and then playing him in position as to get pops for his primaries. You'd reach high levels during his prime and be able to maximize both use and cost.




Last edited by Randy Maus at 11/27/2015 4:29:08 PM