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Alright, lineup is set, tactics are set, now we just have to wait :D
I went with an 11 player lineup (including Jarvis and Rafferty), I couldn't decide on a 5th guard (poor GS or great GS but limited skills...) and I figured Jarvis GS was as high as it would be for the next 4-5 weeks so we might as well use him.

Final report/adjustment discussions after the game!

Alright, a convincing first game against a lesser team, but a win nonetheless, and with a 40 points difference.
I like our proficient offensive flow, it's a good point as I tend to put an emphasis on Pa. Rebounding was not so great, but that could be linked to our good shooting percentage.
Barreiro Valverde was not in his best night, shooting only 20%. Jolly was a bit better, and managed to give 8 assists despite his poor GS. Against stronger teams we will have a problem if our guards don't step up, but I think we have what it takes to compete for a place in the semis if we can somehow improve our guards.

Now it's time to motivate the managers of our NT prospects :D

I'm a bit confused by your NT press release. You talk about how important GS is and how you won't select players with bad GS and then you go and do the opposite. Here I am trying my hardest to keep my guy in good GS and it seems all you care about is salary. Just in case you didn't know.....2 levels of GS is like 3 or 4 levels of any given skill, so maybe starting a guy with average over a guy with respectable is OK(maybe) but good managers would never start a guy with mediocre GS. It didn't hurt you last night but if you keep on managing like that when the good teams come to town, it could hurt you.

Are you talking about Jolly vs King?
I know both players skills, I scouted everyone, it's not a salary thing at all.
As for the mediocre GS of Jarvis, he didn't start. And if I had selected another guard he would only have been a reserve player. Right now he's on the team because his manager will go bot in a few weeks and we need to save him.
I only selected 11 players, and King would have been selected AND would have started IF he had strong GS. To be honest I even hesitated between him and Sompop Phojun, that has about the same outside skills be way worse inside skills, but has proficient GS. But among the other guards with good GS he would never play and take a spot for nothing, so in the end I decided that I would not select any of them and just play with Jarvis as a backup, precisely because we were playing against an easy opponent.

King is still young. If you want him to make the team, keep his GS up, and train his Pa because that's what made me pick Jolly instead of him. He will make the NT, don't worry about that, but there's no point in getting aggressive because I didn't selected him with respectable GS. And having him play only 48 minutes / week is not the best way to have the best GS by the way.

And to be even more transparent, I was even on the verge of selecting one of my players (Giulo Cornoldi), that has good GS (the best of any guard in Canada) and skills equivalent to King, with slight better JS/JR and slighty lower inside skills.
He would have been the perfect choice for this game, but I didn't want to be that manager that favors his players.
If he is the best player for the job in a close matchup then yes I will select him, but we did not need him tonight, like I didn't select King or any other "non absolute lock" guards for a game that I knew we would win. At this point of the season it's better to keep spots open if we can.

Last edited by Fwinns at 6/6/2016 10:13:45 PM

Aggressive??? Who got aggresive?
King getting a spot was never an issue. My GS didn't pop off respectable. (BTW..48-65 is the sweet spot on GS) I just thought it was strange to post about the importance of GS and then start guys with bad GS.
Don't you think that sends a confusing message?

BTW.. I grew up in Alaska and lived in Canada for 4 summers while I raced MTBs. I now live in Japan.(I'm a roadie now)
Like I said before. I don't care if my guy makes the team or not. I just want Canada to do well. And I have been playing this gamne since season 7 and was an NT manager for 8 seasons. Was just trying to help. Like the old saying..Actions speak louder than words.....Saying GS is important and then starting guys with bad GS was just strange. And if I saw, I am guessing other managers did to.

And to be even more transparent, I was even on the verge of selecting one of my players (Giulo Cornoldi), that has good GS (the best of any guard in Canada) and skills equivalent to King, with slight better JS/JR and slighty lower inside skills.
He would have been the perfect choice for this game, but I didn't want to be that manager that favors his players.
If he is the best player for the job in a close matchup then yes I will select him, but we did not need him tonight, like I didn't select King or any other "non absolute lock" guards for a game that I knew we would win. At this point of the season it's better to keep spots open if we can.

That is crazy.....WINNING is what matters and if your guy is the best PG in Canada...START HIM!! The popularlity contest finished with the election....now Winning games is your job. I know that if I lived in Canada and Canada was winning, I wouldn't care if one of the starters was your player.
BTW...Good Luck. Was just trying to be helpful with these post.

Last edited by Yellow cake at 6/6/2016 11:45:08 PM

And winning is what we did, didn't we? I said I would have selected him if it was a close matchup. Yesterday it wasn't.
So now we have a win, AND we have 7 spots left on the team, despite already using 2 to save players from retiring.
There is no guaranty our only two guards with good GS (Cornoldi and Phojun) will keep high GS and stay uninjured all season long, and if the other guards have better GS, they wouldn't even be on the lineup, so I would have wasted 2 roster spots.
Sorry about the aggressive comment, but to me it just seemed that you were just reacting to King's non-selection. I stand by my GS rule, but when you only deal with 6-7 GS, that's pretty obvious a starter will only have average GS.

Last edited by Fwinns at 6/7/2016 8:01:39 AM

Good effort with all the NT-related things, guys. That goes out to NT/U21 coaches and helpers. Doing well.

Thanks for the kind words :)

I think only teams that trained GS had a problem (i.e. no effect on GS), but I don't believe that was the case for any of our guards. Poor GS was due to minutes management:
Jarvis - 130min (Beanerz going bot)
Jolly - 97min (his owner didn't have access to a computer before cup game - I checked with him, shouldn't happen again)
Barreiro-Valverde - 75min, average GS is a bit of bad luck, but playing in Naismith has its drawbacks...
Rouillard - 48min, strong GS, lacking quite a bit in skills compared to BV (esp. JS) so only used as a backup despite the stronger GS
King - 48min (bad luck on GS), also lacking in skills compared to Jolly (esp. Pa). With strong GS I would have selected him instead of Jolly, although with the same GS Jolly is superior. Jolly's owner answering to my bb-mail helped me decide.

For optimal GS, 48min is a bit low, closer to 60 is best (sweet spot is 55-65min in my mind)

Last edited by Fwinns at 6/7/2016 1:20:21 PM