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From: Nicolas
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Date: 9/17/2016 7:26:37 AM
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Hey guys. I just wanted to start up a thread about tactics and specific details about each of them. Any experiences on certain offensive or defensive tactic sets would be great to share.
So I would like to start with Princeton, that has been kinda mysterious tactic as far as I've used it. It's considered to be perimeter oriented inside/outside tactic with a slow pace, but what I've seen and experienced it doesn't use inside game that much. I was wondering if anyone has some in-depth information and experience about this tactic and what type of players fit best on certain positions? What is a X factor position in this tactic and what should be the main skills for him? (and other positions too)? Should the guards have good IS or on the contrary, PF/C should have good JS/JR? Is flow more critical in this tactic than in others? Hope to hear from you guys and feel free to bring up discussion on any tactics.

From: Phyr

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Date: 9/17/2016 2:02:08 PM
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All three outside tactics need JS/JR to be successfully but Princeton as a slow tactic and you need flow (HA/PA) to generate shots. Motion (lesser degree) and RNG (higher degree) are less dependent on flow to generate shots. DR is also beneficial since it helps create shot opportunities. The more flow and DR you have the less likely you will have to jack up a end of shot clock shot which are among the worst in the game.

I would rather have a big with good secondaries than I would a big with high IS for Princeton. I personally would rather have a big with high flow than JS.

From: Nicolas

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Date: 9/17/2016 3:11:41 PM
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More skills better for everything - that is quite clear, but I mean how does the tactic actually work - who gets loaded with the shots and what position is X factor. For ex. in my last game that I played princeton, I had pretty solid backcourt with very good JS/JR and overall pg skills and they took most of the shots and were best scorers, but on the flip side, my C that was the highest paid player with 175K took only 10 shots (also got fouled a lot, shot 5 times). Overall, he shot 15 shots, but still, I think that is not enough. In general, my pg/sg shot 48 shots (10FTs) and my PF/C - 31 shots with 10Fts also. My bigs were with 16 IS and my backcourt had 16> JS and 13> JR. So the difference in shots were 17, that I feel is too much when my bigs IS is 16. Of course that's just a single game but still, I think shot selection should have been more equal when both bigs and smalls were somewhat balanced in terms of their offense. (my sf was a non factor, just a backup player)

From: Nicolas

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Date: 9/19/2016 1:02:34 AM
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Yes, I was talking about my last game that I played Princeton. My bigs HA/DR/PA were 8/8/7 for PF and 7/7/5 for C. Not that great but considering the opponents players that should not have been a problem. I just think that when the tactic is considered more or less balanced ( I know its outside oriented, but it's still considered inside/outside tactic) 3 levels of difference is rating is just too much. 10 for outside offence and 7 for inside is a big difference considering that my backourt and frontcourt are pretty much even in offence.
Maybe Hrudey would like to share his experience here, if not I might ask him later. Thanks for reply though

From: Nicolas

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Date: 9/19/2016 4:28:21 AM
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Well, I know thats not a world level HA/DR but compared to my opponents bigs it should have benn enough. Anyways, thanks for giving advice. I'll wait a liitle to see if Hrudey will comment here, if not then I'll write him a mail.

From: Andra93

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Date: 9/19/2016 11:34:03 AM
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If he writes you, tell us what you got as answer.

I am intrested too...

;)

From: Nicolas

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Date: 9/19/2016 12:31:24 PM
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Sure, no problem. I'll write to him in a day or two if he doesn't show up on this thread and let you know the information I'll get

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Date: 9/20/2016 7:18:04 AM
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I think Princeton is an inside/outside attack as in it runs the offense through the bigs too, but with a bigger focus on kicking it out to the open man for outside shots. Compare to the Orlando Magic when D12 was still there, they surrounded him with 3 point shooters so he had all the spacing he needed to operate.

Also, shots/FT's taken isn't the whole picture to find out how involved a player is in the offense. If the player gets an assist or TO he was also involved in the offense. Your bigs didn't have many assists, but maybe their passing wasn't high enough to immediately create an opportunity after their pass, but 1 extra pass was needed so the guard got the assists, while the big initiated the offense. If you look at our last NT game, our C didn't take many shots but had the most assists: (39126)