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Since this came out in a thread about something else which I suggest people stay away from I'm going to do a new thread about it. I could not care less about it either way and I'm not going to vote, but the reactions and thoughts by some people are going to be very entertaining for me personally. :o Forgive my selfishness.

Also happy new year everyone! Except for a few nasties, you know who you are.

New rules being implemented as per the season post:

The BB promotion and demotion system has stayed the same since season one, but this too is about to change, starting season 38. We are going to implement a hybrid Utopia/BB promotion system. More specifically, we are increasing the amount of promoted teams each season! This, of course, means that more teams will need to be demoted. Teams ranked seventh will be, just like eight ones, directly demoted, while fifth and sixth place teams will be battling it out for survival! Just like in Utopia, the extra promotees will be decided based on their success during the regular season, comparing their rankings to all the other teams in the same division! Exciting times are upon us, surely!

So far, people have voiced their dislike for this proposal on the basis of:
- too many cash prizes being given, 50% more to be exact (more money>more inflation>higher prices)
- league stability reasons.
I also invite you to read alternative suggestions which I suspect are too complicated for Marin, but makes for a good read anyway:(283928.1)

Ready, steady, here we go...

Last edited by Lemonshine at 1/1/2017 6:30:33 AM

Poll:  Do you want the promotion system to be changed as described in the News post?

I'm an old school guy, I love the system I played with years and years.

Once upon a time you had to be the best team to promote.

Jesus, someone must be in a festive mood to vote for option 3 already

If a poll falls in the forest and the BBs aren't interested, will it still make a sound?

Better than Foto continuing to find a million excuses not to make one, right?

If the BBs or EGMs feel like creating their own official thread because they want to give it more weight or think my poll is biased, they are welcome to lock this thread and redirect to an official one. I'd support this initiative by them, it just didn't look like it was going to happen.

I have mixed feelings about the new system. The thing I like is that teams will have to try more in order to be safe. There are so many top league teams that just bring enough season after season in order to just stay up there. Guess that goes for most divisions though, but it gets put on the edge in the highest divisions.

Well said mate, I like the demoting system too, you must compete harder to stay in the league, but then when I think that every season there will be 6 new teams in 1st league, that's a bit too much for me. In one hand I like it, in the other I dont, you said the right words, my feelings are mixed.

Like I said in the other post, before a poll I'd like to see more clarity than we saw in the news post. Its still not clear whether promotion bonuses will be given to all teams. I'd like to assume the BBs don't expect teams to go up and not get on but its difficult to assume anything and I can't get an answer to even simple questions. Then we could consider properly whether adding so much money to the system is a good idea or not.

I'd also like to know why the BBs even came up with such an idea that I've never seen discussed anywhere before. But then it would be easier to find out who shot Kennedy than to get a response from a BB.

here we go with the yo-yo strategy! XD

Guys, I agree with you. it's definitely possible to accumulate funds in the higher league (by staying at the salary floor and winning a few games), demote and spend part of the funds to promote again thereby accumulating assets over time.

Even worse would be a team winning a lot of away games end in the relegation playouts (new proposal you can do that as 5th) and then losing on purpose. I guarantee such a team with promotion bonus would make a ton of money while in the higher league and still have a extremely good roster when they demote. As payrolls are reducing across the board you could try to do this with relatively low salary.

For weaker yo-yo teams boycott rules may kick in, but I doubt someone shrewd enough to do this as a strategy would not work around the boycott rules as currently constructed...

Last edited by Lemonshine at 1/1/2017 8:12:23 AM