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Date: 11/20/2019 6:54:41 AM
Nitra Corgons
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Hi fellas, as I never trained inside defense monsters I would like to know your opinions about which skill to start (as for inside primary skills). Is it SB, ID, RB or do you prefer other way? I assume blocks should be first becose of speed and secondary defense (shot). After that defense or rebounds? On the other way shouldnt it be rebounds first as the hardest skill?
Thanks

Last edited by LA-zajino at 11/20/2019 6:59:40 AM

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Date: 11/20/2019 9:13:31 AM
Nitra Corgons
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Thanks for reply but I was looking more for something else. I dont want to train shot. I am looking for defensive beast training advice.

I want my player to be at least:

x-18
18-18

in inside skills. And I want the fastest way to achieve it from experienced managers in this training regime.

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Date: 11/20/2019 2:25:07 PM
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I would say ID then SB then RB. ID is not that slow. SB is really fast, RB cost more than SB i think. I'm actually at SB, ID is almost finished for me.

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Date: 11/26/2019 6:37:15 AM
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If you are punting IS then go SB first, then ID and then RB, because the more you train ID the more IS will be trained as well, so it is beneficial to have ID popping from SB training. At some point ID will be faster than SB, you probably may want to start alternating then.

My player Ma Anhui was pretty much as you described in inside skills and had 12 IS. He started with 45 TSP and ended with 128 or so, trained about equally with a lvl 4 and lvl 6 trainer. He had relatively high PA and OD for a C. I will tell you this though: 17-18 RB is probably not worth it, I think 16 is enough especially with good outside skills. There reason here is that ideally you would want such a player to grab an offensive rebound and pass the ball (because he has low-ish IS), but that won't always be the case. You can see my player skillset here: https://i.imgur.com/9Nld8NQ.png

I'd go for 16 RB instead of 18 and get some 2 more IS for the same salary, especially if you have better outside skills and more DR than my guy had.

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Date: 11/26/2019 8:46:48 AM
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If you are punting IS then go SB first, then ID and then RB, because the more you train ID the more IS will be trained as well, so it is beneficial to have ID popping from SB training. At some point ID will be faster than SB, you probably may want to start alternating then.

My player Ma Anhui was pretty much as you described in inside skills and had 12 IS. He started with 45 TSP and ended with 128 or so, trained about equally with a lvl 4 and lvl 6 trainer. He had relatively high PA and OD for a C. I will tell you this though: 17-18 RB is probably not worth it, I think 16 is enough especially with good outside skills. There reason here is that ideally you would want such a player to grab an offensive rebound and pass the ball (because he has low-ish IS), but that won't always be the case. You can see my player skillset here: (https://i.imgur.com/9Nld8NQ.png)

I'd go for 16 RB instead of 18 and get some 2 more IS for the same salary, especially if you have better outside skills and more DR than my guy had.

Thanks this is something i wanted to know. From coach parrot i might be going for player like this:

14-4
15-15
15-10
10-18
17-19

and I guess parrot has higher penalties when going higher than real situation

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Date: 11/26/2019 10:52:00 AM
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I guess parrot has higher penalties when going higher than real situation
This may be the case, based on my experience, both with the guy above and other players.

I still think the IS is too low for these players to succeed as big men. Jagermeister had 135 TSP (I think) with 9/17/17/17 inside skills but really elite outside skills, including JR for a big man. Don't think he performed like a 135 TSP player. He was much cheaper than other PFs with such TSP, that's for sure.

In my opinion the only way to make it work with SB is to have the PG with elite inside skills and the PF trading RB for IS.
PG (defends C) something like this: https://i.imgur.com/gIKT8z0.png
C (defends PF) something like this: https://i.imgur.com/bdp4MOj.png
The second one is probably harder to build. Then you go with 2 SFs and a guard at PF-SF-SG and play 3-2. The SFs will cost a lot, but you should be able to get them on the TL and you can probably use a guard with solid IS at the 3 also.

That PG has the best chance of not being a liability on offense, even in inside tactics he won't take that many shots and mostly pass. In fact having less JS than I used in the example may be even better, I'm not sure (he should take even fewer shots but he will struggle even more to knock down the occasional open jumper if you go lower).

Last edited by Lemonshine at 11/26/2019 10:58:59 AM