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Increase ceiling for 18 year old starting skills

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From: atsii

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311495.5 in reply to 311495.3
Date: 8/29/2021 8:09:42 AM
Espoo Seals
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Theoretical cap for 18yo is 70sp as for 19yo it will be 90, not counting the sublevels. And 20 pops first season is possible to get with good training. With my maths, this puts both to pretty equal footing. You can argue that the first season of 1on1 training will be better way to go but overall it's now pretty equal.

Besides, how often do you see 18yo with more than 60sp? In Finland, we get maybe 0 to 2 of those every season. It will be even rarer to get even +80sp 19yo since there is more skill levels from which the randomizer selects the skills of the player. Assuming it's all random, it's around 100 times more likely to get max skill (70sp) 18yo than max skill (90sp) 19yo after the change.

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Date: 8/29/2021 10:22:51 AM
BC Vitosha Sofia
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as for a 19 year old after this change, with proficient skills, that's min 9.00 and will be at 9.999. so the perfect guy will be something close to 100
Mate, this is pure speculation. There's no official info on how much the max has been raised. The news only says we could now see proficient ratings.

So the new max might be 9.25 or 9.49 which is absolutely ok. Not to mention that there are probably other mechanisms implemented to make sure there won't be any op 19 year olds whatsoever.

Wait and see what players appear in the next draft and then you can support your whining with actual examples... or most probably you won't be able to support it at all.

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Date: 8/29/2021 11:19:52 AM
BC Vitosha Sofia
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When they raised it to Strong previously, they never mentioned anything about bringing the max to just below Proficient.
Well it was pretty easy to figure out that the 18 yo max was 7.99. How else would you get a cross-pop in the first couple of trainings for the player? So announcing a raise to strong definitely didn't mean 8.00. Whether it was 8.99 or lower - I don't know. I have never trained a 19 yo draftee.

I am not against speeding up training
Actually I am against it. I liked it better 15 seasons ago but that's just me. And raising 19 yo max starting skill has nothing to do with increasing the speed of training.

Do you realize that you are commenting (as whining obviously insults you and I don't mean to do that) about a very minor tweak actually. My speculation is that the change will increase 19 yo-s starting TSP by ~2-3 points on average.

The change announced may also mess up training for lower potential players. Have they seen this? A lot of rebounding as starting skill for guards? Also reduce number of players that otherwise could be a defensive specialist (punting IS/JS). And list goes on.
We are talking about an increase in those "undesirable" skills that is equal to several cross pop-s, which are random and one cannot control anyways. Besides you are contradicting yourself. The RB on guards / SB on front-court increase was actually my argument (and Alonso's) as to why those players might actually become worse, not better. And you are now using it with your main argument being that they will get too good.

I have no idea how to respond to that last part, so if you think 19 yo draftees will be too good you are welcome to spend all your draft points on them. If you think they will get worse - scout the 18 yo-s. That's the main point of this change - to give us more options!

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