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As you can see in the box score, my team is up by 12 going into the 4th. My bench outplayed my opponent's for the entire game. My opponent comes storming back and two quick timeouts (by my team) keep my bench players on the sideline for the bulk of the last quarter. My team is limited to a whole five points in the final 12 minutes after dominating the majority of the game.

I would like to know what triggers a timeout call, what happens during timeouts, and is there a way to control when your coach calls one? Timeouts are way too random and seem to affect the game at the whims of the sim.

I gotta say this was one of the most ridiculous BB games I’ve ever watched… I had no business winning by that much. But I had home court, ran LI with a huge mismatch in bigs vs your team, your best player was in 7 GS, and frankly if you’re relying on your backups as the key to winning the game, you probably don’t deserve to win. Yes, your bench had the advantage over my bench, but honestly if your bench played the 4th against my starting 5 the result would be the same, they would’ve been outclassed by my lineup just like your starters ended up being outclassed. All that being said, your questions about the game engine are valid and you have a right to be pissed off at the result, because I know I would be furious if the roles were reversed.

Guys,

I appreciate the responses. I knew I was going to lose going in, but I'm one of those guys that watches the game live and the coaching/timeout issues make no sense. I'm not going to get into the weird GS drops that I had this week because that's another issue that contains too many things that are out of the owners' control as well.

I've tried to determine what the driving factor is behind timeouts over the years, but they are just too random. I've been told on this forum that your coach can change your strategy at timeouts as well, but don't have any data to support that because we are not allowed to know these factors of the game.

The big problem is the 4th quarter. There was no reason for my to get outscored 34-5. I appreciate the your breakdown of the substitutions, but the fact remains that my players who had a positive +/- were stranded on the bench because of the wonky timeouts.

Can you or can you not tell me about the exact mechanics of timeouts? That's what I want to know. Traditionally, starters play approximately the first 6 minutes of a quarter and then the reserves come in for a significant amount of time. That occurred in the first three quarters, but because of the timeouts it did not happen in the 4th.

Everything else you have said is irrelevant. If I were a bot team I could see getting blown out by 29 in a quarter, but that's not the case here. My 6-10 are stronger, but weren't allowed to show it in the 4th.

This is a lost cause. You do you sir!

Thanks. I'll hang around until someone who actually knows can give me an answer.

I guess I can explain how the GE works and maybe it will help you out in understanding. The outcome of the game is decided in the 15 minutes before game time. The path in which the game reaches this outcome to my knowledge is completely random. The game can be back and forth, there can be a few big swings and runs from each team, whatever the case may be. Now as for your game, you definitely had one of the more insane swings I’ve seen, but I have seen it happen before. It is pretty rare to have one as bad as yours but it is what it is. The GE needed to get the outcome that it decided and it took a pretty extreme path, and I guess the substitutions, or lack there of, that you are complaining about was part of that.

I will be surprised if you find someone that knows the exact mechanics behind the timeouts, I’ve played this game since single digit seasons, watching a fair amount of games live and couldn’t give you even an idea of how they work. I just know the GE needs to get to a certain outcome and figure it’s substitutions helps do that.

Lastly, no need to be rude to E.B.W. He was simply countering your points and explaining why and how you lost the game. Your initial post was about timeout mechanics, but you have commented on rosters and other things in which he was referencing.