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Elastic effect : IS or ID or SB first ?

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321725.1
Date: 11/17/2023 5:52:11 AM
Les loups du Nord
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Hi
I wonder wich caracteristics (IS ID or SB) are creating more elastic effect and needs to be train first.
I asked top training coach in france and nobody agrees ๐Ÿ˜‚

I know there are datas (here for example : https://www.buzzerbeater.com/community/forum/read.aspx?thread=307729&m=7) that say IS is towed by DI at 0,001 and DI by IS at 0,020. So it seems logical to begin with IS...

But... (and it's a big but) a lot of good managers were very skeptical about the 0,001 factor. How could we find a factor that small? Some other (old ones, sorry Gpolin <3 if you are reading me) told me they never saw any difference.

If you have any experience return on SB first i am curious to hear about it.
Thanks for reading me.

Last edited by Cyssarcose at 11/17/2023 5:53:31 AM

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321725.2 in reply to 321725.1
Date: 11/17/2023 6:11:01 AM
Rakuunat
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This is not direct reply to your question, but I would say that most efficient option is to train IS+ID+RB or ID+SB+RB. So if you train all four inside skills, that player will have high salary and/or quite mediocre skills. Therefore, I would make the decision to leave IS or SB without any training.

Then, what is the best skill to be trained first, depends on your build. If you want to train high IS, then I would start with IS training to avoid SB pops. If you want high SB but low IS, I would start with SB to avoid IS pops. However, I think ID is usually the best starting point if you don't worry about the occasional IS or SB pops that much.

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321725.4 in reply to 321725.3
Date: 11/17/2023 6:27:27 AM
Les loups du Nord
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I see that i was not clear enough, sorry :
I am curious about a fictive player who has the same level in both IS ID SB, let's say 7 and wants 18/18/12.

Both thanks for your answer

Last edited by Cyssarcose at 11/17/2023 6:28:01 AM

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321725.5 in reply to 321725.4
Date: 11/17/2023 8:43:58 AM
Rakuunat
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I would say that it doesn't really matter if you start with IS or ID as the SB is lowest but still required to be 12. But I would start with either IS or ID, not SB. Both training programs should take about 3-3,5 seasons for 18yo trainee to get to the 18/18/12. Difference is that is you start with ID training, you will have SB 10-11 after you move to IS, but if you start with IS, your JS will be 3-4 points higher and SB only gets cross-training pops.

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321725.8 in reply to 321725.7
Date: 11/21/2023 1:21:00 PM
Les loups du Nord
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Hi,
Thanks a lot for all your answer.
To clarify, are you saying that every 2 ups in SB you have one in ID ?

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321725.9 in reply to 321725.8
Date: 11/21/2023 2:31:56 PM
NakamichiDragons
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I would rather say itโ€™s 3:1.

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321725.11 in reply to 321725.6
Date: 11/22/2023 6:42:20 PM
What do you mean by IS-ID is symmetrical?