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Date: 8/25/2008 1:46:07 PM
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How much does height influence a prospects position? (I've seen 7" Guards and 6'2" Centers)

Is there a penalty for playing someone out of their "Best Position"?

Is it wise for a new Owner to hire new staff right away?

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47060.2 in reply to 47060.1
Date: 8/25/2008 2:07:41 PM
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Tall guys train rebounds and such better and short guys train jump shot and such faster. Probably some effect on the performance as well but of that I am too new here to answer.

Best position is nothing to bother about more than the computer tells you the preferable position out of the starting skills. Maybe 7" Guard will have a much better future as center ...

I hired a trainer straight away and fired him to get even better trainer this week. Only my third week but I think that training is the best way to improve your team in the long run but I am just a novice so maybe my strategy is not the optimal. Other staff members are not as high priority but I suspect that it would be a good idea to buy a better doctor and PR manager but I am not doing that just yet.

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Date: 8/25/2008 7:02:48 PM
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You can think of height already being factored into a player skill, a 7'4 player who has just learned to tie his shoe laces might have the same rebounding skill as a 5'4 guy who has considerable leaping ability, timing, upper body strength, and positioning - but these simply make up for the 30 inch difference in height plus arm length. The game engine can simply make it a 50-50 contest to see who gets the rebound, without trying to make an adjustment for height.

The taller player can improve his rebounding quicker - for example, he can learn to raise his arms over his head, while the shorter player is already closer to his physical limits.

The best position is calculated, and can change as the result of training. The formula appears to be based somewhat on relative skills, so that for example a "point guard" has better passing and handling skills relative to his shooting. If you want to see a very bad player, search on the transfer list for a "point guard" with a maximum of inept passing. His shooting will be even worse.

The best position has no effect on game performance, which is based instead on the position a player is at, and his actual skills (along with tactics and the opposing players). A player can play multiple positions in a game (I've had one player play 4 positions). In addition, a player may take different roles on each trip down the court, with a center sometimes shooting from 3, or a guard driving the lane. Whether the center hits the 3 depends on his shooting skills, not that he is "center".

The "best position" appears to be taken into account when calculating the salary. I'm not sure if there is a way to manipulate skills to take advantage of that or not.

The staff system is going to be changed in a few weeks.

I'd certainly hire a better trainer, once you've decided on what you are going to train and have the players to train.

A doctor will not help injuries heal, but will reduce their severity when they do occur (longer injuries are less frequent, and many injuries will only last for the remainder of the game). He might be considered more of an insurance policy, and it might depend if you have anything worth insuring. It could be cheaper to have a couple of extra backups than to hire a top notch doctor.

The effect of the PR guy is somewhat unknown. The BB people insist that it makes a difference in attendance - but it is hard to pin down the effect, since you would have to have two comparable teams with different level PR guys.

You probably can't afford level-10 staff members.


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Date: 8/25/2008 7:35:42 PM
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As always, you are succinct and understandable. Whenever I see your posts, I know that I'm going to learn something. Thanks for helping all of us...Pappy

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Date: 12/9/2008 3:48:21 AM
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Does anyne have experience with training a 1.88 short guy on a center/pf spot. How bad is it to train him there? Is the diffrince in training speed to much?

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Does anyne have experience with training a 1.88 short guy on a center/pf spot. How bad is it to train him there? Is the diffrince in training speed to much?

Think about it this way.

If all players getting full training get their training at 100%. But the taller you are, you get a bonus for training skills that are considered BIG MAN territory. So, if you have another player that is taller, he will gain MORE for his time spent training the the C/PF skills. No training is wasted, and if you need the skills improved on your shorter player, then do so. But it is not the most efficient use of training time if you have another taller player that could benefit from the time.

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Date: 12/9/2008 11:07:37 AM
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i very much doubt that... you should see the 100% for the tall guys and less training for guys that outside their (perfect??) length range for that position... If I understand most people, noone exactly knows what the perfect length range is and secondly the ranges seem to be several inches.

hope that makes sense lol

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Date: 12/9/2008 11:28:02 AM
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TerFu said:
So its like when you train rebounding a 5'9" guy will train at 100% but the 7'1" guy might train more than 100%?



Astragoth said
i very much doubt that... you should see the 100% for the tall guys and less training for guys that outside their (perfect??) length range for that position... If I understand most people, noone exactly knows what the perfect length range is and secondly the ranges seem to be several inches.

hope that makes sense lol


You can look at it two ways. There is a baseline level of training. If your player is taller, there is a benefit for C/PF training. So, there is a bonus of some amount to that baseline. So, in comparison, the shorter player will train slower than the taller player if all other factors are equivalent.

I based all my calculations off the baseline level.

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Date: 12/9/2008 11:39:14 AM
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true... but the question is whether a 7 feet player trains slower than a 7"1 or a 7"2 player as a center for example... As far as I understood it, there is no difference per inch. The difference is that a certain player needs to be above a certain length to get 100% training and not just 1 length. Same for all positions. The problem is that noone knows the exact lengths where you get 100% training for each position...

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Date: 12/9/2008 11:40:05 AM
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true... but the question is whether a 7 feet player trains slower than a 7"1 or a 7"2 player as a center for example... As far as I understood it, there is no difference per inch. The difference is that a certain need to be above a certain length to get 100% training and not just 1 length. Same for all positions.


I think there is a difference, but a 7'1" guy isn't going to be all that slower than a 7'2" guy.

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