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when and how should i expand my arena

Let me start by saying that this long post is my personal opinion and has no BB or GM truths in it!

I wouldn't look that much to other teams.

It's actually quite simple. If you sell out in a type of seat, you can either raise the ticketprice, or expand that type of seats.

If you have money available, always go for the expansion. Raising ticketprices can be done if you raised a league and get a better PR manager, but I wouldn't raise them to much.
Ticketprices are limitted, and expanding can be done endlessly.

Should there be no money at the time, you can raise your ticketprices a little, but once you get some money, you can best expand and bring the ticketprices back to where they where. This will likely draw more spectators, which mostly means more money...

imo, if you have reached the max ticketprices because you would sell out otherwise, you are on the wrong track. At all times you should see to it that you have some breathing space.

to conclude here's an example:
say your arena has 10000 bleachers, and you had to raise your price to 19/seat and you just sold out last game. This would bring you 190000 cash.
Under the same circumstances, would you have 15000 bleachers available, but with the same price you would sell 10000, this would bring you 190000. BUT if your ticketprice would be 15 dollars, you would likely sell out the 15000, which would bring you 225000. You might think that it would be best then to put your price at 17, so you won't sell out, and you might draw 13000 people then, which gives you some breathing space in both ticketprice and amount of bleachers, but this would bring you 221000, which is slightly less.
Ofcourse these are not exact numbers, and maybe with 17 as price you could get slightly more, I feel confident (from my experience) that lower prices will mostly bring you more money.
UNLESS you have reached the max amount of visitors you CAN draw in your league with your PR manager... And that limit will be difficult to find, because it would be bad to find it (because this means that when you found out you passed the limit you are loosing money)
Lower prices are likely to bring more money, but don't overdo it. I'm not sure for teams that loose most of their games, but for other teams, average teams and better, I think they could best keep the ticketprice above the middle of low and high price.


Hope this helps.

This is the best explanation for arena sizing and pricing I have seen.

Thank you.

hm. I tend to disagree. Not completely, but still.

I agree that you need to look out that you in fact have the money available to expand. If you desperatly need a better trainer, or a better player to be able to win, it's priority, since if you can't win, you loose spectators, and that means you loose money, probably much more then you loose by having higher tickets.

But I do not agree on keeping your money for other purposes until you are selling out on max ticketprices when your team is good enough and you have staff that is satisfying to you.

Expanding costs money, sure. But I think we agree that at some time you'll need to expand anyway. So what would be better then? spend the money now, and gain a little more money weekly, or spend it in 2 seasons, and have lost money 2 seasons weekly.

If you have your economics stabilised, it is very easy to calculate the amount of profit you make each week. If you take a part of it, or even the whole thing for a few weeks, you can easely expand your arena without your economy going down.
You remain in the same spot for a few weeks, yes, but afterwards you'll get more money comming in and after a while the investment will pay off.

So I say, by all means, if you don't need the money desperate for something else, expanding your arena is a very good investment!

You also don't need to do it in big chunks. Since we do not have a constructioncost here, you just pay for your seats, so if you build 5 or 100 it won't be more costly then when you build 2000 at a time.
Building for small amounts makes it so that you don't feel much of the money spent on it (at least I didn't and still don't feel it as hurtfull to my economy), while you still make progress in the incomming money...

in germany, most teams who invest a lot money iin their arena early get a faster team development then ther teams.

But germany is maybe the big arena country of BB ;)

Edit: And when you raise your prices instead of expanding you loose money, on long and middleterm.

Last edited by CrazyEye at 12/5/2008 1:10:12 PM

how much money did you earn with a succesful play, i earn around ~340k each home game without beeing that succesfull ...

And when i try to compete with the better teams with areana up to the double size of mine, i would be medium succesfull two season and then wuld go down.

Normally those teams with big arena promote, last seson was on with a 88k arena but this team plays pretty unsuccesful.

What impact is there when playing at home while your arena is expanding?