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75076.2 in reply to 75076.1
Date: 2/25/2009 7:17:44 AM
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Hello everyone! I am not a candidate but I am a manager of 2 U21 players that's why I am very involved in this elections.

That being said, I have a question to all candidates:

1. Should having an NT player on your team be a requirement or at least a big factor to be an NT coach?

2. What should be the number one role of the U21 coach?

3. Can we win the next U21 Worlds? If not, what is the best finish we can expect and why?

4. Will you help the U21 if you lose? How? (Please don't say it depends on what the U21 coach says)


And I have a few questions to each candidate based on their speeches:

GM-Katcha

1. How will you balance handling your team, your GM assignment and the U21 if elected? Rank them and why.

2. How will your experience take us to the top level of U21 teams?

JSmoove

1. Since you say that we can compete now because we have reached 1000 users, then we were just unable to compete before since we had a small user base. If that is the case, why are you sick and tired of losing when we didn't have a chance in hell?

2. How will you make sure our players are trained properly? How will you coordinate this with the managers of existing U21?

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75076.3 in reply to 75076.2
Date: 2/25/2009 7:54:42 AM
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1. Should having an NT player on your team be a requirement or at least a big factor to be an NT coach?

As long as that player have the skills met up with the requirements then why not? i studied early on the players on the player pool as to who will be representing the country, all teams' players have equal chances... only to be weighted down to how good your player is to the U21

2. What should be the number one role of the U21 coach?

the role of the coach is to properly take down info on his team and his opponents... as of now, we are on .500 winning percentage with 12 wins and 12 losses, and are included in the top 10 in Asia... and we have to do necessary measures to play better in this U21 run and become better, it may be hard with the promotion of the other players who are over aged, but i believe there are others who could take the U21 to greater heights, so to speak... like (6298409), (5128879), etc

3. Can we win the next U21 Worlds? If not, what is the best finish we can expect and why?

I cannot provide the answer for that, instead, it's to the players and their club teams... that's why i'm going to remind their managers constantly to train their players so that both U21 and their club may find success just a grasp away.

4. Will you help the U21 if you lose? How? (Please don't say it depends on what the U21 coach says)

Yes, I will gladly present myself as one of the staff whenever the winning coach needs help... I know that the coach cannot do this alone, and he\she must have his own team staff as well.

And I have a few questions to each candidate based on their speeches:

GM-Katcha

1. How will you balance handling your team, your GM assignment and the U21 if elected? Rank them and why.

With my current roster now, i find that there would be no problem with Team Polydozel, that's why running in U21 would be good timing.

I would prioritize U21 games, as it has a greater load right now, then Polydozel's cup run, then the PPL.

2. How will your experience take us to the top level of U21 teams?

Inside game done by LA-Ubaldo worked like wonders for the U21, yet the problem with the tactic is that it is too predictable, and that is what i'm going to focus on the U21 team if ever i get the seat.

I normally focus more on balanced attacks, with the back-court players providing balanced attacking and offensive flow, and the inside players being more responsible in defending the high caliber front court of other countries, yet, defense shouldn't only be the priority of the centers and forwards, but to play good basketball all-throughout



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75076.4 in reply to 75076.2
Date: 2/25/2009 8:41:22 AM
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1. Should having an NT player on your team be a requirement or at least a big factor to be an NT coach?

Definitely not. Experience is the key factor here.

Although my team started at season 5 lang, I have played since season 3. With my said experience, and some luck, I have managed to become Philippine Cup runner-up and champion after just a few seasons, despite going up against powerhouse teams such as Blazers, and Jubas.

Advancing in the Cup isn't all about team strength, pero team management. Squad rotation and enthusiasm plays a big role if you wish to progress both in the league and in the Cup.

That, and years of Hattrick management.


2. What should be the number one role of the U21 coach?

Make sure that players get trained and set up a team for the future.

Like I said, we won't be able to win it all since our 1000 user base started last season lang. We need to find dedicated managers who will be willing to train their young players week in and out. Kaya nga I'm gunning for a better participation and mentoring from the community. Every week, our user base fluctuates, with inactive teams pa. If we can make them stay, and train their players, we should have better players for our squad.

Some countries, or even in HT, they have farm teams who make sure that the players are trained exclusively. Having competent players is halfway to winning the battle already.


3. Can we win the next U21 Worlds? If not, what is the best finish we can expect and why?

Not just yet.

Other countries have an established player base and it would be very hard to compete with them. The last draft should be our key to success, if we play our cards right.

I plan to get us to qualify first, then see where we can get from there.


4. Will you help the U21 if you lose? How? (Please don't say it depends on what the U21 coach says)

Yes.

Even if the winning manager would refuse to accept my help, I can help in my own way. I can mentor some teams to have better training schemes so that they would most likely stay in the long run and potentially be able to train players for the U-21 level.

1. Since you say that we can compete now because we have reached 1000 users, then we were just unable to compete before since we had a small user base. If that is the case, why are you sick and tired of losing when we didn't have a chance in hell?

No, I wasn't talking about you. I think you have done a good job winning games having a depleted line-up. But there have been instances in the past I think, wherein scrimmages weren't set, or have used the default line-up.

If you look at your line-up, Maravilla should be in the U-21. The gap between our NT and the other NT's is greater than at the U-21 level. Having him in the U-21 would further our chances progressing as he is one of the top players that we have.

Being U-21 manager is more than managing U-21 players, but laying the framework for the NT as well.


2. How will you make sure our players are trained properly? How will you coordinate this with the managers of existing U21?

Surely, I cannot do this alone.

I would create a team who will look at the draft results and:

A) Message those who own players who have a $4000 salary and above;
make sure that they are trained and their minutes are managed.

B) Create a database. Scouting will be easier this way if we have one in place. This way, we can monitor pop-ups every week.


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75076.7 in reply to 75076.6
Date: 2/25/2009 9:40:43 AM
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Thank you sa mabilis na pagsagot.

I agree with JSmoove na ang U21 coach natin should set up the team for the future. A good U21 campaign will take 3-4 seasons in time for the 18 year olds to be 21. That's my first point, setting the expectations. Ang magiging U21 coach ay hindi ang coach na mag-aani ng kanyang tinanim (maliban na lang kung mananalo ulet).

On the other hand, malaking tulong ang previous experience ni Katcha kasi tulad ng sabi ni Aldo, it's easier said than done. What I mean is maraming magandang ideas si JSmoove na malabo mangyari. Mga nasubukan na dati at hindi gumana. Hindi ibig sabihin na kalimutan na dahil malay natin gumana kay JSmoove pero dito papasok ang NT experience ni Katcha siguro. Mahirap magsabi kung anung tactic ang dapat ilaro kasi kaya palagi LI ang strategy natin kasi kulang naman talaga ng guards ang U21. Matagal nang nakalagay sa forums na mas kailangan natin ng guards sa team.

Aldo:

This thread is for debating. Anybody may post here as many times as they would like, but keep away from personal attacks.


Peace!

Asan na yung ibang mga candidates?

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75076.8 in reply to 75076.6
Date: 2/25/2009 9:42:11 AM
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edited some parts that added fuel to the fire.

I admit that my NT run is somewhat disastrous and that is because of the lack of preparations at beginner's mistakes... most assume that being an NT/U21 coach is the same as being the coach of the club team... well, it's not. It's a lot of hard work and being an NT/U21 coach is not all about the coach, but it's all about the country and it's community.

if you look through US, Germany, and Italy threads, they have a very solid community and they all take part in making the NT and U21 one of the best teams in Buzzerbeater. The Philippines NT during my tenure is composed by me, and two other scouts Norman Black and Devastator, who managed to use a lot of time to scout the whole BB Philippines leagues... If it isn't for the scouts, we wouldn't even have any idea about Garvez and Gabunas... the top two highest paid Filipino Players today and primarily the core of our NT.

We had a big development during my tenure as NT coach, but it was too late, as time is of the essence... that's why it's better to have a chance now as the community is more active (imagine... there are at least 20-25 managers posting at the thread now than 5-8 managers posting 1 season ago... and also, Gus has been more active now in the forums than before...^_^).

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75076.9 in reply to 75076.7
Date: 2/25/2009 9:51:01 AM
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Hey, I had Mario Cane before sa NT. :p

Before sa Hattrick, Philippines qualified despite having a 200 user base. The manager did this by encouraging a group of people who will trained their players talaga. Pinongan, Mabaquiao and Madrid are examples of players who were trained for a few seasons and should be the core of the NT. If we can somehow find atleast 10 managers who can train their draftees for 2-3 seasons, then we will be in good shape.

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75076.10 in reply to 75076.7
Date: 2/25/2009 9:57:03 AM
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Asan na yung ibang mga candidates?


baka ala-Eddie Gil sila... ewan...

heheh

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75076.11 in reply to 75076.9
Date: 2/25/2009 10:05:46 AM
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Yun ang pinakamalaking problema. Pasensya na kung pessimistic ang dating pero sa tingin ko ay halos imposible pagsabayin ang fulltime training for NT at success sa iyong liga.

Ito na ang 3rd season ko of training Pinongan and Mabaquiao together at palaging 1 position training lang (except JS) para mabilis at maximized ang training. At dahil dito, salitan sila palagi hindi nagsasabay. This season susubukan kong isabay yung draftee ko na 18 yr old. Plano ko ay walang substitution. 1 trainee per game para tig-48 mins sila. At dahil dito, never kong natrain ang iba kong mga players kaya nahihirapan ako sa playoffs kasi may 2 akong NT-level na players pero walang tulong sa iba.

Kailangan natin makahanap ng matitinong mga trainees at dapat ay willing ang mga managers nila na magsakripisyo. Sana mali ako sa pagiging pessimistic at maging supportive ang ating mga managers.

Last edited by Devastator at 2/25/2009 10:06:44 AM