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84302.1
Date: 4/3/2009 5:11:34 PM
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my apologies if this is covered directly elsewhere, but what i have been picking up is:

a player's height makes no difference.

now, i can see this being true when it comes to the skillset of a center and the player is but 6'3'' tall -- but could it possibly be true that that same center playing against a seven-foot player would somehow not be penalized?

i know height slows down training -- but does this also mean a 6'8" PG would not be able to take a 6' opponent down low effectively?

if this is the case, i would be disappointed. (height has got to be factored into the Game Engine, i tell myself).

thanks in advance

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84302.2 in reply to 84302.1
Date: 4/3/2009 5:32:52 PM
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nope. Height only affects training.

Having lost to a team where their center was 6'0", i can comiserate.

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84302.3 in reply to 84302.2
Date: 4/3/2009 6:44:26 PM
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This is the only part of BB I would like to see a change in . I can imagine why it would take a long time to do so.
The game engine doesn't take speed into account.
unless BB adds speed component, they can't change the current height issue, otherwise the entire team might as well be 7'0 dirk that can out shoot,rebound,post up shorter players.

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84302.4 in reply to 84302.3
Date: 4/3/2009 7:24:54 PM
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Good luck finding and training those players.

From: Bird

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84302.6 in reply to 84302.3
Date: 4/4/2009 3:09:30 AM
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Well if you know how height affects training you'll know that's almost impossible, for a team to be composed of do-it-all 7'0 players.

Regarding the height thing i've played against teams who fielded a 6'3 center, they gain steals while doing so (almost 20 TO by my center) but they lose a lot in rebounds. (almost 20 as well compared to my team) so in a way i think height is already factored in.

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84302.8 in reply to 84302.5
Date: 4/4/2009 9:38:58 AM
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I don't know when a discussion turns from "in depth" to "flogging a dead horse", but I am intrigued by the implications of the game's dismissal of height as a factor. A couple of thoughts:

1) I assume new players have skills more or less randomly assigned. Could it be that it is at this point that height may play a role -- that is, if we surveyed all 7 footers and all 6 footers we would find the former collectively have some rebounding or inside defense head start and the latter would have some, i don't know, OD or Handling advantage?

2) If height only affects training, then would it not then be to our advantage to seek out the smallest possible players that suit our needs at a given position? I am now thinking I should not have shipped out that 6'5" center -- I thought he was going to take too long to turn into a perimeter man, but I see now he is averaging for his new team in the mid-teens for rebounds (and playing PF).

Anyway, let me know when i have started whipping a deceased carcass.

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84302.9 in reply to 84302.8
Date: 4/4/2009 10:06:41 AM
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Well for one the player your referring to isn't playing in a very tough league. I don't understand your argument for having shorter players, Centers and PF train faster if taller. Of course it's nice if they have initial skills like respectable handling and passing or having a good rebounding guard but it's not required. I really don't see the issue. I've played several bball sim games and in those which factors height with ingame performance the 7+ footers are horribly overpriced simply due to their height. With no height performance correlation it allows player anomalies like Hakeem who could dribble or Barkley who was a great rebounder despite his height.

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84302.10 in reply to 84302.9
Date: 4/4/2009 11:11:07 AM
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It wouldn't be making sense when there are 5'11" centers can dunk & score on a 7 foot centers. If game engine's coding doesn't include this, then the game wouldn't be fun anymore because far from realtime.

(http://www.buzzerbeater.com/BBWeb/boxscore.aspx?MatchID=1...)

i was having a respectable outside defense 6'6" SF, and my opponent SF was 6'0". During the game, i was using 1-3-1. Just badly surprised to see that 6'0" SF can easily hit a lot of threes onto my 6'6" Ace Defender's face.

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84302.11 in reply to 84302.10
Date: 4/4/2009 11:33:27 AM
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I know, it seems to make sense that a taller player would give more trouble to a shooter. But that's not how it works with the GE.

In terms of OD, it all depends on the skill level of the OD alone, and not on height. However, to train OD to a high level, you need a shorter player for faster training.

And btw, respectable OD probably didn't do it for this case, because the opposing SF had a very good jump shot or range.