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From: ZyZla
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Date: 5/25/2009 12:17:36 PM
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If you like to see NT player in "normal" teams, they must to be attractive to then and this is just possible with reasonable salaries because the raise of the salary don't fit to the extra power a player gets for the training.


this is what i have said in the first moments I came to the forum at the second season end.

I have said that I hope that TOP league clubs will be able to afford to have at least few stars and all the other team almost equal... but seems it`s impossible... I was really afraid of situation that is in HT there divine players are garbage... this seems the same as Ronaldo wont play for any team in football world and LeBrone wont play for any team in Basketball world...

The easiest way would be to put more money in game for higher leagues and make wider gap with way more bigger promotion prize... That teams would have to get rid of few of their players then they relegate and have to buy few then they promote if they wanna at least compete in higher league... we need real GAP if we wanna that this would be more realistic... but don`t think we`ll ever get it... cause majority of user wont like this to happen. All this means that Top div teams should be able to pay something around 200k salaries more then they are able for now, so this means div2 teams 100k more, div3 50k more...

as well as staff system could get part of this, there could be wider gap in their salaries. maybe something like div1 is paying 100% of salary, div2 90%, div3 70%, div4 55%

it should be thought again and more developed but this would help be more realistic then TOP teams would concentrate in wining the games by buying trained plaers from lower divs those would have better area for training them and improve them self from that...

I don`t know if anybody likes this idea I have managed to think long long time ago and just now remembered about it...

EDITED: This would make TOP teams more thinking about training stamina or FT instead of growing skills more and more... And I understand and I know that this would make div3 team chances to win the CUP almost impossible... so please don`t point this out as a minus for this idea, better try to develop it more

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91533.2 in reply to 91533.1
Date: 5/25/2009 12:18:40 PM
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From: CrazyEye
Data: 2009.05.25 18:44:14


I have said that I hope that TOP league clubs will be able to afford to have at least few stars and all the other team almost equal... but seems it`s impossible... I was really afraid of situation that is in HT there divine players are garbage... this seems the same as Ronaldo wont play for any team in football world and LeBrone wont play for any team in Basketball world...


afaik the BB said something similiar, thats why i wonder why they don't act in this case.

I would say a maximum salary around 200k salary won't crush the econonics, and maybe make real strong centers still sensefull ... or at least if a additional rebound skill on ikstens don't cost 30k extra(just a guess), which is nothing in comparision to the maybe additional 0.5 rebounds.

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From: ZyZla

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91533.3 in reply to 91533.2
Date: 5/25/2009 12:19:36 PM
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Nuo: crimedevil
Data: 2009.05.25 18:51:51

The easiest way would be to put more money in game for higher leagues and make wider gap with way more bigger promotion prize... That teams would have to get rid of few of their players then they relegate and have to buy few then they promote if they wanna at least compete in higher league... we need real GAP if we wanna that this would be more realistic... but don`t think we`ll ever get it... cause majority of user wont like this to happen. All this means that Top div teams should be able to pay something around 200k salaries more then they are able for now, so this means div2 teams 100k more, div3 50k more...

as well as staff system could get part of this, there could be wider gap in their salaries. maybe something like div1 is paying 100% of salary, div2 90%, div3 70%, div4 55%

I think raising promotion money is probably a good idea, and that some extra funds ought to be given to teams that promote through the bot relegation process. For one thing, that increases the incentive to win games for everyone who has a shot at the title. For another, I believe player prices are increasing overall as more players and more money comes into the game, and fairly quickly, too.

I don't know how to address the issue of players who cost more than anyone can afford. It seems to me the only two ways are to reduce salary step-ups -- possibly even retroactively -- or to increase revenue, and in all fairness, increases should probably not be restricted to high-level teams. Reducing salary is probably the less inflationary option.

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From: ZyZla

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91533.4 in reply to 91533.3
Date: 5/25/2009 12:20:18 PM
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I think raising promotion money is probably a good idea, and that some extra funds ought to be given to teams that promote through the bot relegation process. For one thing, that increases the incentive to win games for everyone who has a shot at the title. For another, I believe player prices are increasing overall as more players and more money comes into the game, and fairly quickly, too.

I don't know how to address the issue of players who cost more than anyone can afford. It seems to me the only two ways are to reduce salary step-ups -- possibly even retroactively -- or to increase revenue, and in all fairness, increases should probably not be restricted to high-level teams. Reducing salary is probably the less inflationary option.


the point is that there should be huge wide gap from div4 to div3, from div3 to div2, from div2 to div1... that would be solved with huge bonus of promotion money, that most of the times wont give a chance to win two promotions in row as well it would depend a lot from user (how successful he`ll invest that bonus).

but as I have said this would make almost no chance for team from div3 and lower divs to win the CUP.


I don`t see and don`t think anybody will think better solution... cause all other ideas makes almost no difference in the end the idea of what we have now... the main thin is to think the exactly sum of promotion money that it wont ruin the game, that means someone have to do a lot of counting... and be ready for plenty of complains till user would understand this new suggested system fully... I`m sure that most of user would think that richer will become even more richer and poorer even more poor till they will get the point that everyone will get equal chance to compete in higher div if they`ll be able to promote and show good manager skills by using promotion money wisely.

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91533.6 in reply to 91533.5
Date: 5/25/2009 3:28:18 PM
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I like it the way it is now. The Div 1 teams already have most of the star players. Why should we change it?

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91533.7 in reply to 91533.6
Date: 5/25/2009 4:02:52 PM
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you don`t even get into the idea (= but i have already said that there will be a situation like this and most of users will be afraid of this course they just don`t see it...

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91533.8 in reply to 91533.1
Date: 5/25/2009 7:16:31 PM
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The current financial system is created not to widen gaps between divisions and that is a good thing.

From: ZyZla

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91533.9 in reply to 91533.8
Date: 5/26/2009 7:35:44 AM
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the main thing is that you wont feel the gap if you would promote, you would feel it just in CUP games

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91533.10 in reply to 91533.9
Date: 5/26/2009 12:31:55 PM
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Horrible idea on many levels. Simply you want relegating teams to be forced to rebuild, remove any chance to close the gap for non-top level teams and make keeping the top 8-10 position in a country automatic.

And it looks that you don't know how promotion bonus works. Please try to adapt to current game first and think twice before any next another suggestion. Thanks.

Last edited by docend24 at 5/26/2009 12:33:26 PM

From: ZyZla

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91533.11 in reply to 91533.10
Date: 5/26/2009 12:49:40 PM
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with current system you`ll still see the most unrealistic thing all over the world then best players in the game plays in div3 or div4 cause normal team cant afford to keep them, cause of wage is high to pay it. That means fully trained players can play just in FARM teams (=

Please try to adapt to current game first and think twice before any next another suggestion. Thanks.


please think twice before saying something.

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