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93323.2 in reply to 93323.1
Date: 6/2/2009 11:33:47 AM
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Here's my speech:

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NO ONE at this table ordered a rum & Coke
Charles: Penn has some good people
A CT? Really?
Any two will do
Any three for me
Any four will score
Any five are live
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93323.3 in reply to 93323.2
Date: 6/2/2009 2:37:22 PM
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I said in an earlier thread that you've done a great job of elevating my interest in this game through the job and communication you've done as NT coach.

but tell me, why shouldn't we elect a new person to give another experienced manager a shot at the reigns?

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93323.4 in reply to 93323.3
Date: 6/2/2009 2:43:57 PM
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Well, I'm running because I presume that there will be people that want to vote for me and believe I'm the best person for the job.

I myself think I'm the best person for the job, otherwise I wouldn't run.

If the USA community feels that it's time for a change, then great, they vote, I do not get re-elected, and someone else takes the reins.

However, there's no reason to not run if people want to vote for me.

The voting should be based on who the best person for the job is, regardless of how many terms I (or anyone else in the future) may have served.

For some people, the best person will be me. For others, it will be for someone new, and because they are new.

That's why we vote - the community decides which philosophy to undertake.

NO ONE at this table ordered a rum & Coke
Charles: Penn has some good people
A CT? Really?
Any two will do
Any three for me
Any four will score
Any five are live
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93323.5 in reply to 93323.4
Date: 6/2/2009 3:02:48 PM
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From your first term as NT coach: What have you learned and what do you think your biggest mistake was?



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93323.6 in reply to 93323.4
Date: 6/2/2009 3:08:47 PM
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A couple of questions for TheUnrepentantGunner:

#1 After the last election, why is there very little to no evidence of you having anything to do with the USA NT at all? I don't see any participation on the offsite forum, nor do I see much of a presence on these forums?

If I'm mistaken, please let me know.

#2 What can you bring to the USA NT that I cannot?

#3 Could you have gotten this last team past the semifinals?

#4 What's up with this? (78034.2)

Last edited by Edju at 6/2/2009 3:09:03 PM

NO ONE at this table ordered a rum & Coke
Charles: Penn has some good people
A CT? Really?
Any two will do
Any three for me
Any four will score
Any five are live
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93323.7 in reply to 93323.5
Date: 6/2/2009 3:21:33 PM
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From your first term as NT coach: What have you learned and what do you think your biggest mistake was?


2 things, one major, one minor:

#1 Major issue was the attitude towards enthusiasm. In Hattrick, teams endlessly gather Team Spirit (same as enthusiasm) over the course of the tournament(s).

Here, you can't do that. You have to be willing to spend enthusiasm at the appropriate times, and not gamble that you can get away with not going all out to look to the future - you may not get there.

Here's an example:

(1081)

Now, I've learned:

(5587)

A certain Italian proclaimed that CT to be suicide. Yet, we came within 3 points of the final.

#2 The minor thing I learned was that stamina and free throw, while important, should not be a dealbreaker for adding a player to the roster. Basil Faust, come on down.

NO ONE at this table ordered a rum & Coke
Charles: Penn has some good people
A CT? Really?
Any two will do
Any three for me
Any four will score
Any five are live
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93323.8 in reply to 93323.6
Date: 6/2/2009 3:21:39 PM
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You seem to be taking an angry/aggressive approach juice. Can we try to be nice and constructive?

I would like to know how you guys plan to get more people involved in the NT system and how the up and coming teams can contribute.

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93323.9 in reply to 93323.8
Date: 6/2/2009 3:25:28 PM
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You seem to be taking an angry/aggressive approach juice. Can we try to be nice and constructive?


I'm not angry in the least - we're playing a game.

People are (and have been for 3 times around now) been asking me tough, pointed questions.

I think I've earned the right to do the same, especially when a portion of someone's speech is directed at me, correct?

I also don't understand the "constructive" comment. What am I missing?

NO ONE at this table ordered a rum & Coke
Charles: Penn has some good people
A CT? Really?
Any two will do
Any three for me
Any four will score
Any five are live
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93323.10 in reply to 93323.8
Date: 6/2/2009 3:28:07 PM
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I know Juice and Coco have both had an open door policy for participating in U21 and NT. They have made their strategies transparent on the NT forum and its the fault of the individual if they don't sign up on the forum to help out because they have announced on the BB forums every time they put up their game strategy.

I was brand new to the game and was still able to assist and learn from their experience. I don't think I would have crushed my league this past season without both their friendly advises.

FC

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Date: 6/2/2009 3:30:14 PM
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I would like to know how you guys plan to get more people involved in the NT system and how the up and coming teams can contribute.


We're constantly soliciting opinions on the offsite forums, and we want as many people, new, old, tall, short, D.IV, NBBA, whoever, to participate and offer insights, etc.

This isn't a solo mission by any means - I posted a couple of weeks ago that united we stand, divided we fall.

In the elite levels of the NT world, that's never been more true.

We also track a lot of players, and the only criteria to be able to train an NT-caliber player is to own one.

It doesn't matter who owns a player, if they get effective training, they're in the mix.

Finally, I want to resurrect the chat site we had for Season 3-4 - it really did a great job of getting everyone together.

NO ONE at this table ordered a rum & Coke
Charles: Penn has some good people
A CT? Really?
Any two will do
Any three for me
Any four will score
Any five are live