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I have to admit I have not thought this completely through, but what about taking away enthusiasm all together and assigning each team, per game an enthusiasm level between a specific range?

We have all read about how great teams can TIE all the way through the year knowing they are going to win anyway. Losing teams can do the same in the hopes of slamming a specific team during the year. To be more realistic however (THIS IS REAL BASKETBALL DAMMIT! I don't care what my girlfriend says!), maybe it should be more random.

For example (meaning not to be taken literally), lets say an enthusiasm level between 3-7 is given to each team for each game, at random. This is close enough to where the better team (as they should) will win their game even if they get a 3 and a significantly worse team gets a 7 that game. But...if the teams are close enough, the numbers are just far away enough to where we could see some upsets.

This takes away from a team struggling through the season, playoffs, sitting at a 5 enthusiasm ....only to meet up with the league's best team waiting to lay an enthusiasm of 13 on him!! Should the better team win? Sure. Should the other team have a small chance though ...sure. Big upsets in real basketball do happen all the time. It is taking away the ability of the better team to win 100% of the time by the loophole of enthusiasm. When I say better here...I mean significantly better as well.

Also, there is the case of showing what they were assigned that game. Should you or should you not? Well, we don't know exactly how "home court" advantage works do we? I am sure there is a hidden science to that right? Does it give 2 more enthusiasm points? 3? Or does it take away one from other team? We don't know, so why not make his ugly cousin, the enthusiasm, random too?

Would you show the random numbers assigned? or would you not? I would not personally.

In real life (YES IT IS REAL DAMMIT! I dont care what my girlfriend says!), you can't save up enthusiasm for a month, or take it easy like you can with BB. Some nights ...at random...your team is going to play a bit sluggish...and sometimes they will play better than the night before for some reason. But within a range seems more fair.

What are everyone's thoughts?

Last edited by Burger Chef at 6/18/2009 5:38:12 PM

For example, lets say an enthusiasm level between 3-7 is given to each team for each game, at random.

I stopped reading when I saw "at random".

looking for reasons why it is bad as well ...
Hopefully it will eventually lead to better ideas. The current way has big flaws. I already know the bigger and better teams won't like the changes.

looking for reasons why it is bad as well ...
Hopefully it will eventually lead to better ideas. The current way has big flaws. I already know the bigger and better teams won't like the changes.

Looking for what those "big flaws" are, and why assigning something at random will fix them.

If you would make it random why not remove it?
It doesn't seem realistic either just to make it random. But it could be function of some parameters like how your past games had went...
I like the current system because it brings something to the game to have in mind.

Agreed with removing it, but I am saying the game assigns it ...to where we would never know anyway...JUST LIKE HOME COURT ADVANTAGE ..right? Do we know exactly what home court gives us? Takes away? NOPE!

So why do we know:

"Hey guys..you go play at a level 8 tonight"
"Hey..we are a better team..so let's play at a lower level for 2 months to build up our skill level for the end."
But aren't those major flaws?

If we took it away all together, that eliminates ANY chance for upsets because it would be solely based on player levels and what you run for Offense and Defense. I am not talking all the time here...just talking about the small percentages of games.

It mostly favors the better team ...and the better keeps getting better all the way up to NBBA. An easy response is "just get better"...well yeah ..of course the better teams will say that, and hate change...but why cant there be something that could favor MORE teams?

JUST LIKE HOME COURT ADVANTAGE ..right? Do we know exactly what home court gives us? Takes away? NOPE!

No, it's not even remotely similar to home court advantage.

First, HCA is not random.

Second, it is fairly well-known that HCA provides a defense and rebounding bonus to the home team.



Last edited by GM-kozlodoev at 6/18/2009 5:12:26 PM

Hey Mr. Burger Chief Sir...I don't agree it should be random or done away with. But I do think that it should be tied to winning/losing more than anything. Maybe teams should have ratings, if a lower rated team wins, their enthusiasm goes up. If you win a big road game, your enthusiasm goes up.

and what is that bonus given? Do you know for sure it does nothing else besides this?

and what is that bonus given? Do you know for sure it does nothing else besides this?

I know for sure it is not a t all "the same" as your suggestion here.