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111087.10 in reply to 111087.8
Date: 9/13/2009 7:57:10 AM
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you are right. I am (too) passionate. you should know that by now, but that is part off me and it has its possitive sides too.

I cant help it, now we have started this community going, I am buzzing with ideas and energy and enthusiasm.

you are partly to blame yourself, we always clashed with our ideas and when you stated you would support me, didnt want to let you down :P hahahaha :)

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111087.12 in reply to 111087.9
Date: 9/13/2009 7:59:46 AM
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Division mentoring is a great idea. However, we have discussed this in the forums and in the U21 national team debat thread extensively, how do you try and offer help to people without actually patronising them or make them feel we do this?


This might be too obviously a teacher speaking, but I think the key to really good mentoring is to make it feel... conspiratorial. Not: "do let me know if you need a hand", but more "hey - fancy crushing your enemies, driving them before you, and hearing the lamentations of their women?"

Can non-supporters join federations, btw?

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111087.13 in reply to 111087.12
Date: 9/13/2009 8:03:13 AM
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No they can't. Feds are supporter-only.

To Everyone:
Obviously not every one is going to be confident they have the communication skills to be a mentor - those that do, feel free to join me in pledging that you are prepared to do so. I'm only prepared to put the effort in if we agree to do so as a community, so I'm looking for 14 other coaches to agree to support Pallis' idea.

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111087.14 in reply to 111087.12
Date: 9/13/2009 8:09:04 AM
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no they cant... i havent thought about that, we used to have an offsite forum, but the problem with that (and believe me that was very well advertised) noone was using it. should we give it a new try and set up a new forum?

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111087.15 in reply to 111087.14
Date: 9/13/2009 8:11:57 AM
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offsites don't work mate. You might get one or two guys that are prepared to do that that don't have Supporter but most people who care that much already have Supporter.

You can use a combination of Fed and Forum, just be a bit careful about tactics on the Forum.

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111087.16 in reply to 111087.15
Date: 9/13/2009 8:18:50 AM
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yeah will have to be a combination too than... Tactics and discussions about future development on the federation forums and the rest on the national forums?

dont want to give away too much off our great ideas and plans to our enemies do we?

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111087.17 in reply to 111087.16
Date: 9/13/2009 10:20:54 AM
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I've read the last posts of this thread and I have some ideas for you:

1st- I've already mentioned this on the debate thread. It would be a good idea to use bb-stats NT forums. Everyone with autorization would be able to enter there and you could discuss things like enthusiasm and skills. For the rest of it, you could use this forum.

2nd- For the mentoring system, I'd already sugested this. I would suggest you to use the league forum, instead of the bb-mail. Because I think that by bb-mail is considered spam. Or even if it isn't, by the forum you could post the links to the threads. And everyone sees new messages on the forum simply by going to the standings page.

Those are my ideas for these topics. Now I'd like to know what you thik of it

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111087.18 in reply to 111087.17
Date: 9/13/2009 4:10:56 PM
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Some good practical proposals from vasco, and I think they are the right way to go. Using bb-stats enables us to involve both supporters and non-supporters, and also it's a site well worth pointing new English managers to anyway.

I'm already casually mentoring one team who have just promoted from III to II. I'd be happy to volunteer for more mentoring duties.

Astragoth's enthusiasm is fine by me - he won't put people off. elmacca, because the people who are easily put off are almost certainly not reading the forum at the moment. The rest of us need some realistic idea about what is, and is not, acheivable. Astra is right about the dire state of the England establishment, and I don't think we should shy away from that fact.

Anyway, count me in. On the down side, I see Simon Hanlon was bought by a Spanish division 5 team. Not good.

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111087.19 in reply to 111087.18
Date: 9/13/2009 5:17:11 PM
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Anyway, count me in. On the down side, I see Simon Hanlon was bought by a Spanish division 5 team. Not good.


I wouldnt see hanlon as lost, I had a look at the guys transfer history and he us quite good in taking a player and selling them with profit later, I am trying to be positive for a change and I hope this added value comes from him training his players well.

I am very much doubting at the moment. I have at the moment my training plans set, but I am doubting whether I should take another U21 potential player and completely throw away my competiveness away or keep with the 1 I have. I have 2 but the second one isnt that great, more a profit maker than a real prospect, however looking at the current crop off players, if they dont improve fast with some proper training from me, he might make it some day...

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111087.20 in reply to 111087.18
Date: 9/13/2009 5:20:26 PM
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Alfred Scadden (10814942)

he went to a belgian div II team, not one off the biggest basketball nations...

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