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From: Mario

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132121.10 in reply to 132121.9
Date: 2/20/2010 6:17:01 PM
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My 21 y.o. SG has 8 pops so far + 1pops in EX. i have 5 lvl trainer and train him in one position

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Date: 2/21/2010 6:07:55 AM
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My 18 y.o C has 7 pops: 2xRB, 1xIS, 1xSB, 2xID, 1xJS
he isnt very tall for C position

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Date: 2/21/2010 6:31:09 AM
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Well my training has been a big mess this season with players coming and going like crazy. Been doing 2 position training with a level 5 trainer but I can only say with confidence that three players have been trained 48+ every week.

Vallo Tammela 6'2" 20 year old allstar 3 pops OD, JS and Sta. Unimpressive!
Kent Masters 6'7" (my draft pick so I can't help the height but at least he isn't 7'7") 19 year old perennial allstar 6 pops JS, JR, OD, Han, Dr and Sta. Much better.
Oliver Ðuričko 6'3" 19 year old allstar6 pops JS, JR, 2x OD, Han and Sta. Awesome!

Mostly trained but has to play SF in important matches so not 48+ each week.
Mo Ruoqing 6'3" 21 year old allstar 5 pops JS, JR, OD, Dr and Sta. Seems ok.

So except for Vallo who must be partially brain dead about 6 pops so far.

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132121.13 in reply to 132121.12
Date: 2/21/2010 11:20:58 AM
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I have had a few guys in past seasons get between8 and 10 pops. That was while training guards I have now switched to training inside skills as I am looking to create a great SF/PF.

My best player has had an outstanding season for pops. He is 20 with Hall of Famer potential and being trained by a level 5 trainer. Here are his pops:

JS- +1 (he will get another pop here from IS training)
OD- +1
IS- +5 (should get atleast one more pop here)
ID- +1 (will get another pop here from IS. At 8 weeks sub training)
REB- +1
Stam- +1

So he has 10 pops to this point and should get atleast 2 more.

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132121.14 in reply to 132121.6
Date: 2/21/2010 6:08:10 PM
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you training 2 positions? you dont get 10 pops a season double position training...


That is false. I have been training 2 position all season (guards) getting 5 players 48 minutes a week and 4 have 9 pops and 1 has 8 because 2 weeks he got 45 and 46 minutes. Plus i have 2-3 more weeks of training so i believe that all of them will be breaking the 10 pop barrier comfortably.

I just believe that you need to balance your training well so that the secondary training you get from certain things helps build up the sub skills while you're training other areas.

From: papag

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132121.15 in reply to 132121.1
Date: 2/22/2010 12:31:00 AM
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My main trainee has experienced about 10 pops, but that includes sometimes training 5 players (2 position training, 5 players getting 48+) My second trainee has experienced a pop about every week i've trained him which is about 5 weeks, including a double pop in one week.

I would say though that a good season would be about 1.3 pops a week... in a 14 week season, that's about 18 pops in a season. But that's if you're training a young player with the right height and in one position.

thats what i think at least.

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132121.16 in reply to 132121.1
Date: 2/22/2010 12:51:36 AM
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My guy Steven Wade has got about 8-10 pops this season. He was injured for a week and i didnt know how to train for the first 2 weeks of this season (trained team instead of 2 or 1 position). I think depending on he age and height maybe 7-10. It also matters on wat training u do like OD will train slower than Rebounding if guy is about even height (6'4-6'6). 4 or 5 pops a season is a little disappointing in my opion but i do only do 1 position training.

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132121.17 in reply to 132121.16
Date: 2/22/2010 6:13:37 PM
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It all depends on what kind of training you give, what you're level of trainer is, what the starting skillset and age of the player is.

8 pops a season a player (18yrs) can be good especially if you talk about training OD or JR with a level 5 trainer. But considered these are the slowest trainings. The bare minimum for 18yr old trained by a level 5 trainer should be about 7 pops a season. However if you're giving different trainings to a 18yr old at 1 position, 10+ a season should be quite normal.

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132121.18 in reply to 132121.17
Date: 3/5/2010 9:11:05 PM
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From: 7ton
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132121.19 in reply to 132121.18
Date: 3/8/2010 5:15:22 AM
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I think pops in HA and DR should be counted in half because they are trained roughly twice as quick as other skills. This is also how I count the skills of new draftees/young trainees in the market. With that in mind I get roughly 6-7 pops a season for 2 position training with lv 5 trainer.

Last edited by 7ton at 3/8/2010 5:17:59 AM

From: Beechy
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Date: 3/8/2010 5:34:01 AM
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My drafted 18yo so far has had 10pops - 1 x JS, JR, OD, IS, RB, SB, P, Stam & 2 x ID. Will almost definitely pop in IS and ID again this season. Not surprisingly I'm trying to make this bloke a SF.

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