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I think if you want to make it into the top leagues you have to be able to run multiple formations. Defense is why too, so at the same time, I'll answer your second question.

Elite teams can have one elite defender, but over the past few seasons, especially since the engine changes back in maybe season 8? Defense has been more important and elite teams that play 2-3 zone, really do take away all your inside shots and really do dominate the boards. Teams that play 3-2 can hold your best player to 1-12 shooting from outside. Having a balanced lineup offensively and decent passing ratings can help get your other players shots as your team adjusts.

ex: I played LI for 14 league games last season, my PG or SG were my leading scorer 6 times, and my SF twice. So less than half of my games where I played an inside tactic did my PF or C lead my team in scoring.

What does this mean? You can run an inside or outside based offense all you like, but you need to have a balanced team to take advantage of what the defense shows you. If you have a balanced team then you can bait your opponent into playing a 2-3 zone then attack with princeton or RnG or motion. and vice versa.

Bah, there are very few occasions when I would play a 2-3 zone with the current engine. The truth is that it does a poor job of defending any type of attack. In fact, on some occasions I would be willing to use a 3-2 zone to defend an inside offense.

Pusher express my thoughts exactly. Ive seen 3-2 zones to dominate the inside tactics. Actually i used to play a lot inside tactics on the past. Now NEVER on important games.

You are young team, so you should experiment a lot as we did all of us.

Bah, there are very few occasions when I would play a 2-3 zone with the current engine. The truth is that it does a poor job of defending any type of attack. In fact, on some occasions I would be willing to use a 3-2 zone to defend an inside offense.

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And that's an aspect that BBs should change; I'm a big fan of the importance of the tactics, man can't be the best defense cause is the easier defense you can choice. Using a 1-3-1 against motion or r&g should give a bonus in the defense cause you've a big penalty in rebounds, but see this match: (20453157). You can see the defense of the play (12) but the opponet playmakers scored with 50% and 80%, that's not good at all. So, skills are importants, the core of the GE can be really done but tactics seem to have a marginal impact in the match with the paradox that in some cases using 3-2 zone you've the best defense against an LI attack... At the end, if I defend 2-3 against an inside attack I'd like to have a bonus, if I play 3-2 against an outisde I'd like to have a bouns compare to use man defense, but if I'm wrong with my choice using a 3-2 against an inside tactic I should have a malus. 2-3 zone now is a suicide.

Tactics definitely are important, but skills are obviously more important, and so they should be.

You can't really use a single match as an example and even comparing with other games is difficult because lineups change and the amount of time spent on the court is always different.

From my experience the tactics do play a big role in whether a team wins or loses (when the teams are even matched in skills)
And sometimes even when the teams are not matched if the tactics of the underdog are perfect and the team is capable of an upset.

If you have good outside defenders and average inside defenders then I would suggest playing 2-3 zone unless you are sure your opponent is going to play an outside offence and has a weak inside attack.

If you have good outside defenders and average inside defenders then I would suggest playing 2-3 zone unless you are sure your opponent is going to play an outside offence and has a weak inside attack.

While I do not 100% agree with everything that ned said, I still have to completely disagree with the proponents of a 2-3 zone. You really cannot afford to sacrifice outside d in this game anymore. Just look at the Heathens B3 run this season, he is showing that really high outside d combined with above average ratings everywhere else can really be a lethal combination.

So, when would I play a 2-3 zone? Maybe if I needed to play a guy at SF who was a poor outside defender. Maybe if I really needed to kill the rebounding battle. But it would certainly not be to sacrifice outside d for inside d.

2-3 isn't useless.

Look at my rematch against Tukums (22419894) today. I finally needed the OT to win although I didn't play LI or LP.

Labude I'm sorry but you tried to suicide yourself, you could easily won with other tactics, you've arrived at the OT because you played with, probably, the worst attack tactic available and I don't see any correlation between "2-3 isn't useless" and your today match...

2-3 isn't useless.

I did not say it was useless. I said that in the majority of situations, a man or 3-2 zone will do better. I then went on to outline some possible (rare) situations when a 2-3 might be useful.

It seems to me that in this game if Tukums plays a man that he beats you. You both made poor tactical decisions. But I guess that's why you play PL games, to try weird things?

The top teams in the world have fantastic Outside Offence because of One on One training.

Outside Defence is much slower so generally the level is pretty low, so teams are weaker defending outside which is exactly why in the early seasons when some of us were deciding on what to train we thought Outside offence was the way to go.
Now it is the opposite and in a few seasons the situation might be reversed.


However this is concentrating a lot on Outside play, when in fact their are teams that completely rely on big men to get their points. If you are like me and have powerhouses for guards then when you face a team with huge Cs and PFs then you need the boost on Inside Def. that you get with 2-3