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188938.10 in reply to 188938.6
Date: 7/20/2011 7:08:27 PM
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Firstly it isnt exact the opposite of ptb because patient is actually outside orentied. Secondly we are talking about better defensive team not better overall if you use patient against a very good defense you will get totally crushed...


Why don't you go read what some long-time users have to say about the offense instead of spouting off half-cocked opinions that are far from the truth.

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188938.11 in reply to 188938.5
Date: 7/20/2011 7:14:57 PM
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I too am of the opinion that against better defenses, one shouldn't play slow tactics. Slow tactics should be played against better OFFENSIVE teams, not defensive.

In slow tactics, the team will try to find a good look. If it succeeds, the shot will have 70%-80% of chance to go in (these numbers are fictional).
If the team doesn't find a look and the shot is made in last 5 seconds of the attack, the shot will have very low change to go in (for example 20%).
Playing against very good defense will result in most shots taken in last 5 seconds of the attack.

In fast tactics, most of the shots will have an average chance to go in, let's say 45-50%. So why should anyone advocate slow tactics against better defensive teams? Slow tactics should be played against teams with much better offense than your defense to keep the point difference low.

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188938.12 in reply to 188938.11
Date: 7/20/2011 7:54:20 PM
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You guys do realize this is all a little late for me, right?

;)

From: Jaz

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188938.13 in reply to 188938.8
Date: 7/20/2011 8:40:28 PM
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I copied what was posted in the FAQ (144856.24)

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188938.14 in reply to 188938.11
Date: 7/21/2011 2:49:12 AM
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Slow tactics should be played against teams with much better offense than your defense to keep the point difference low.


Are you referring to all slow tactics? All defenses have 'speeds' as well, and it doesn't seem like a good idea to play a slow defense against a fast offense like Push the Ball. My impression is that the defense won't get set in time.


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188938.15 in reply to 188938.14
Date: 7/21/2011 3:01:12 AM
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No, I'm referring to offensive tactics.

I didn't know we have slow and fast defensive tactics...

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188938.16 in reply to 188938.15
Date: 7/21/2011 5:02:59 AM
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For example, from the game manual:

" 3-2 Zone: Increased perimeter defense at the expense of interior defense. Slow pace."


Does that mean 3-2 is relatively weak vs Push the Ball or RnGl?

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188938.17 in reply to 188938.16
Date: 7/21/2011 5:07:52 AM
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No, I think this defense just uses less stamina. FCP for example uses most stamina, then 1-3-1 a bit less and I guess 3-2 even less.

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188938.18 in reply to 188938.10
Date: 7/21/2011 5:32:41 AM
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Why don't you go read what some long-time users have to say about the offense instead of spouting off half-cocked opinions that are far from the truth.

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Oh really this thread only confirms what i was saying. Patient looks for mismatches and if the defensive team is better you wont find them... and yes theyre looking for mismatches at outside. so i dont get what are you trying to say with not-so-half-cocked opinion

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188938.20 in reply to 188938.19
Date: 7/21/2011 5:37:27 AM
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if you just switch the positions like this;

PG - SG - C - SG - C

now you have some mismatches there, so Patient is the better option..



Yes i know that but could you show some examples how does it work against a zone defense?

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