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From: CrazyEye

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206601.10 in reply to 206601.6
Date: 1/17/2012 9:28:10 AM
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Didn't think of that. I meant not unfair for us, but unfair for you when you play us.

Like how in my PL I been destroying NBBA teams. Obviously it is tuffer for them to build enthusiasm and maintain GS. I beat them in the PL but I don't necessarily think I have better team/strategy/knowledge etc. Just circumstances allow me to win out.


but there are also circumstances who amke it tough for you the lack of "homegrown" talent, missing deep in the league which result in lower tv and also visitor income when the teams are young. I believe it is easier for me to maintain a top team, then for you, and nippon is also so competive that tanking and staying in div I won't work which is maybe the road to elite which small country team can take.(in germany the succes of the tankers isn't that great till now)

But i think the great disbalance betwen the league, and the huge steps you could take at the beginning which gives also a big gap betwen team who started close to each other* is frustrating for new users which keeps them also small.

* i believe the difference of teams who started with 1-2 month differences in german div 4 aren't that big that you could compete with the older team quite fast. But in Bahamas two well managed first league teams, will improve "weekly" in their first year.

From: Jay_m

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206601.11 in reply to 206601.10
Date: 1/17/2012 10:38:33 AM
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Teams in India have one year playing against bots before jumping to the top league where the same team has won for the last 10 seasons. There is no time to build up the team slowly and try to get bargain players, which I think would have been more interesting.

From: Pewu

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206601.13 in reply to 206601.12
Date: 1/17/2012 1:05:49 PM
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Firstly, I'll stick to main topic. I choose "I'm not in one, but think they should stay " option. Everybody should have possibility to represent his own country. Second topic is about "where's easier?". I have no doubt micronations are much more easier to success. Just logic test, Is it easier to beat 3000 users or 30? As you said new teams have tought competition in their rookie seasons. Yup, it's true, because they start from Div3, on the other hand they are already in Div3! In every country it takes season to get to the top, even in Tunisia. The reason why there's discussion about small countries is their influence in B3. This is the only cup where participants are from different countries.

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To: Pewu
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206601.14 in reply to 206601.13
Date: 1/17/2012 2:41:00 PM
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The point is that although one starts in a higher division, the gap between the top teams and the next is so large that many players get discouraged. In Malaysia it may be in Div. II. In India, it is Div. I. It's so easy to promote that teams are not competitive in the higher leagues and get discouraged and drop out after losing by 60 points. We have teams ranging in salaries from $800,000 to $40,000. It's a healthier environment for everyone to start at Div. IV or V and work up.

From: Pewu

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206601.15 in reply to 206601.14
Date: 1/17/2012 4:17:03 PM
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I think it's pretty logical that if you play your first season you take your time at least 3-4 season to make your team competitive at the top level. None of you start with 15000 arena. It's a base to make big profits, however at the beginning it cost you some money. I see that you want equal rights for managers which just start their career and users with multiple seasons in their account. This game learns patience.

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206601.16 in reply to 206601.6
Date: 1/17/2012 6:40:22 PM
Kitakyushu
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Like how in my PL I been destroying NBBA teams. Obviously it is tuffer for them to build enthusiasm and maintain GS. I beat them in the PL but I don't necessarily think I have better team/strategy/knowledge etc. Just circumstances allow me to win out.

Someone is tooting their own horn...Wolph, you have only beaten one NBBA team and looking at your PL games, it seems that you are the only one not trying out new tactics. In fact, you haven't faced one team who ran Look Inside against you.

From: Jay_m

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206601.19 in reply to 206601.15
Date: 1/17/2012 9:00:43 PM
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No, that's not what I meant. I don't expect to be competitive with the best teams in the country in two or three seasons. What I expect is that I would be competitive in my league in two or three seasons. When you start out in Div. IV or V, this is possible. People promote out in a season or two and then continue to rise until Div. II, over a period of time.

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206601.20 in reply to 206601.17
Date: 1/17/2012 9:10:27 PM
Kitakyushu
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As far as LI goes. WHen you run it you will say its okay. When you don't and others do you complain. When I tank, you ride me for it. When I say I am focusing on my trainees you ride me for it. WHen you guys do it on the G8 side suddenly everyone gets a free pass. Does your middle name start wtih an H?

What? I was just wondering why in a thread about MICRONATIONS you bring up your Private League....that is just silly..Bring up the B3 and how no Spanish or Polish team has ever won it(two of the biggest leagues in the world) or how Sharman won it back in the day with an easy Domestic schedule... A Private League should and has no place in an argument about small nations performing well. Why is it always about you? Every post..me me me me.. No wonder your not an LA anymore.....Crazy...
Like I said though, my enthusiasm advantage plays a role. Get over it. BTW how did you do in the B3 leagues???

What does this have to do about anything? I prefer to be in Private Leagues with my friends...I clicked on your PL game last week. How many users were in the chat? 0 from your league( 1 counting me)...In my games chat their were 5 of us and sometimes 7 or 8...I want to watch the games with other users instead of being in a Check The Boxscore the next day league. And you brought up Look Inside...In fact you said you couldn't win without it. That is a quote from you..So when you beat teams that are clearly testing tactics and then you brag about it, it is just plain sad. .And I never said I don't use it..but I do try and mix it up...I have played 6 Low Post games, 6 Look Inside games, 6 Motion games, 3 Patient games....You...18 Look Insides and maybe 1 Motion and 1 PTB and 1 Patient..... Running the same tactic every game would be like only chosing the same person while playing Street Fighter...How fun is that....Not very if you ask me..

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