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208224.11 in reply to 208224.10
Date: 2/10/2012 7:05:54 PM
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What might improve things regarding that is to have a page with all open positions on NT teams.
Meaning - NT teams that there are less than 2 candidates for that job.

I believe that some of the users (not necessarily from SA) may have some willing to take that position, but are just not aware of.

As I guess what will be claimed against, I'll repeat - I'm not sure how many are reading this thread, so saying that we created this thread and still no one tried to be theri next U21 NT coach, does not prove a thing.

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208224.13 in reply to 208224.12
Date: 2/11/2012 4:37:24 AM
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As I guess what will be claimed against, I'll repeat - I'm not sure how many are reading this thread, so saying that we created this thread and still no one tried to be theri next U21 NT coach, does not prove a thing.


It doesn't prove anything for sure, because we don't ask to be designed as NT coach, we are elected to be NT coach.

Some days before this thread, I even received a message from an obscur lithuanian asking to be designed as SA NT Coach. I let him know that will not be the case.

If somebody wants to be NT coach, he apply himself during the election and try to win it.

I'll repeat once again...
Not all knows about this option, or even want to explore each BB-nation to find one that they could coach.
Hence, making it more publicize by a page that I defined on my previous message, will do the job, or at least will make the chances, of finding each BB-nation a NT coach, higher.

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208224.14 in reply to 208224.13
Date: 2/11/2012 4:41:26 AM
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The problem is not that the SA U 21 doesn´t have a coach, the problem is, that the elected coach left the game.

Your proposal would severely increase the probability of newbies trying to become NT coaches and even make the issue worse, as it would lead to many more countries´ beeing hit with quitting NT coaches.

I think it´s a true benefit that you have to either get used to the game for some time (to find out about NTs at all) AND / OR you have to spend some time digging into the game (to find out about how to become an NT coach) before you can get to that responsibility

If you make "NT elections" just one click away from a well / ill timed signup, you risk alot of "SA U21 is without coach" cases.

Last edited by LA-seelenjaeger at 2/11/2012 4:41:55 AM

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208224.15 in reply to 208224.14
Date: 2/11/2012 4:57:00 AM
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The problem is not that the SA U 21 doesn´t have a coach, the problem is, that the elected coach left the game.

Your proposal would severely increase the probability of newbies trying to become NT coaches and even make the issue worse, as it would lead to many more countries´ beeing hit with quitting NT coaches.

I think it´s a true benefit that you have to either get used to the game for some time (to find out about NTs at all) AND / OR you have to spend some time digging into the game (to find out about how to become an NT coach) before you can get to that responsibility

If you make "NT elections" just one click away from a well / ill timed signup, you risk alot of "SA U21 is without coach" cases.
There is no connection between making it publicze to having a newbie as its coach.

1) A rule limiting the coaches being at least X season experienced can be added.

2) In case there will also be an experience candidate, it will rarely be the newbie who will be elected anyhow...

3) When an NT coach leaves the game there should be a new election. During the season.
This is a separate suggestion, but it is just logic to do so, and it does not cost almost none in server performance, and hence, there is no realy reason why not adding that.

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208224.16 in reply to 208224.15
Date: 2/11/2012 5:06:11 AM
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You keep suggesting away from reality.

In minor countries, the number of teams watching the NT process is so low, that a newbie signing up, registering for the election and voting for himself has actually a pretty solid shot at becoming the next coach.

Part (1) of your suggestions, as nice as it is in theory, is still discriminating young teams and *red alert* gives the old and rich fat teams sitting around doing nothing but collecting money an advantage. Also, it may discourage teams to follow the NT early on, as it would be "so far away for them" (X-1 seasons), that they have no need to cope with it till they become available.

Part (3) is out of all the things you said in this thread the most reasonable, although you keep making assumptions about work you don´t have to do, and things you don´t know nothing about, making it pretty pointless again. Mind stopping the "it´s not so much work anyways" cockiness? There´s plenty things connected to the process of elections (signing up for an election, getting the people to know it´s happening out of cycle, giving candidates a proper time for their campaign) which doesn´t make it as easy as you try to imply, but why I am bothering to explain that is beyond me, you won´t listen anyways.

As it is as of now - countries should try to elect a person who can do the job for two seasons. Try to take that into account when voting in someone.

Last edited by LA-seelenjaeger at 2/11/2012 5:07:02 AM

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208224.17 in reply to 208224.16
Date: 2/11/2012 5:20:02 AM
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You keep suggesting away from reality.

In minor countries, the number of teams watching the NT process is so low, that a newbie signing up, registering for the election and voting for himself has actually a pretty solid shot at becoming the next coach.
It is nonsence with two paralel aspects.
1) In case that user will be the only one, then so be it!
It is better than having a BOT as the coach of that team.

2) When publicizing what I've suggested, it as a better chance that someone OUTSIDE that BB-nation will try to run for that position.

3) What you point do bring is that the option of voting for yourself should be removed. [And that is true anyhow]

Part (1) of your suggestions, as nice as it is in theory, is still discriminating young teams and *red alert* gives the old and rich fat teams sitting around doing nothing but collecting money an advantage. Also, it may discourage teams to follow the NT early on, as it would be "so far away for them" (X-1 seasons), that they have no need to cope with it till they become available.
Nonsence once again.
1) A team who wants to be selected will do that upon voting.
It does not matter whether that team is older or not, and in case the newer is better, or is better publicizing themself, they will be the next NT coach.

2) A user entering the game does not watch the NT because he can be elected there, but because he wants to see what is NT is doing, because his player may be part of that NT team.

Part (3) is out of all the things you said in this thread the most reasonable, although you keep making assumptions about work you don´t have to do, and things you don´t know nothing about, making it pretty pointless again. Mind stopping the "it´s not so much work anyways" cockiness? There´s plenty things connected to the process of elections (signing up for an election, getting the people to know it´s happening out of cycle, giving candidates a proper time for their campaign) which doesn´t make it as easy as you try to imply, but why I am bothering to explain that is beyond me, you won´t listen anyways.
As you have no knowledge what I do know, it is wiser not to write things like that...

In any case, I've written about the performance of the servers, and that is easily can be evaluated to be very low cost.

But, since you've brought up the implementation time - it shouldn't be that hard either.
All the methods are there, they just need to add a single event (upon timer), that will execute things that are already excuted witha single difference that it is for a bunch of BB-nations and not for all of the BB-nations.

Last edited by Pini פיני at 2/11/2012 5:20:59 AM

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208224.19 in reply to 208224.17
Date: 2/11/2012 1:47:29 PM
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3) What you point do bring is that the option of voting for yourself should be removed. [And that is true anyhow]

Why is that?

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208224.20 in reply to 208224.18
Date: 2/11/2012 3:44:31 PM
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Pini, before talking about elections and wanting impose once again your suggestions, you should look how the elections does work currently. All the countries around the world have candidates. Many of the small countries have candidates coming from all the part of the world. There is no need to publicize the fact to candidate in a country or another. In fact, candidating somewhere should the result of a long réflexion, not a sudden wish.
Yes, because it is much better to have BB-nation w/o a coach.
Much easier to win that way...
How didn't I thought the Perepete way...

In the past days, I saw you asking questions that every experienced managers know while you are here asking for 50 changes a week.
Some thinks how to improve the game, some aren't familiar with some features, as they are not that experienced at the game, and some just want their eBay-game to be left alone, and keep all its eBay features...

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