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From: Tangosz

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In many leagues, especially as you go up in division, there tends to be more parity, or at least more teams who are close in ability. The GDP can be the difference in more games in that case.

But you're right that we don't really have a good estimate of the strength of the effect. That's gonna take more time, and will be messy for a bit, but that's the fun of the game IMO.

From: Hunterz

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I will probably update the tactic use again after the 5th-6th game for all of the leagues and see how it has changed/stayed the same and then again at the midpoint of the season (if i remember).

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In my opinion the gdp is laughable. The only time it will ne used in normal league play will be from teams that are inferior to whom they are playing. Also the data gained on it thus far is unreliable. The only way to gain good data on how it works is on the nt/u21 stages in scrimmages where the lineup can be identical from game to game.

I'm not saying it will be completely useless but I am saying it will be a desperation move by teams who wouldn't come close without it.



So.... a desperation move to you... is, looking at "game film" and "analyzing play calls by your opponents"..... isn't that what's commonly known as coaching? So you think "Coaching" is a "desperation move"? ....I'm just checking here...

My personal opinion, is that if you are not using the GDP, or at least trying to use it, then you deserve to lose every game to people that do utilize it or try to. To me it represents coaching. Since we can't control timeouts, or substitutions, or change defenses mid game, like what is able to be done in real basketball, this at least lets us prepare like a real coach would prepare, thus somewhat doing the "defensive switches" for us, only its unseen by us.
(65836980) That was my win yesterday, only made possible by GDP. Was it a desperate move? I had the inferior team, I would not have won without it, but since the guy ONLY plays base offense and m2m despite being the most active manager in forums in our league, was I unworthy of the win?

Does being the better coach or smarter coach or more prepared coach make you "desperate"?

I understand this is your opinion and you are entitled to it. But understand that your opinion has no data for its basis, and sounds very naive and ..... close-minded, to me.

I am not trying to offend you.

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Date: 1/23/2014 12:18:58 PM
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I thought I saw something about this in another thread but cant find it. How is inside isolation not an inside tactic? I chose that my opponent would focus inside and he played inside isolation and in the box score it says I chose the wrong focus. (65837157)

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Date: 1/23/2014 1:09:21 PM
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From the tactics page in the game manual:

Isolation offenses: The team will try to find their best offensive player and clear out an area for him to create his own shot. There are two types of isolation offenses (both are considered as having a balanced focus by the GDP):

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Date: 1/23/2014 3:57:49 PM
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Helpful information Hrudey, thanks...

I have to say that I have found it helpful at my level to beat bad teams without using my good players. Double hit their strategy and it get's a lot easier to beat them no matter who I put out there.

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Date: 1/29/2014 6:51:57 PM
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I know I am down low, so have to YELL to speak up... I have been playing a majority of LI knowing it's not the best style for my team, but that it's the strongest style. If I run into a game that I want to change tactics for my gaurds give me that flexibility. With my offense inside I think LI is a little slowed down in pace, and when I tried LP it did not work out well for me.
Mostly I was talking about how tactially you can be stronger in one area, but go generally in another way so that if someone sit's on your "regular" tactic you can actually play stronger.

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I think a team with dynamic guards and defense are stillgoing hard to beat regradlessof gdp.

Personally it doesnt matter how your prepare a team, if your going to lose your going to lose. This is same as me taking onthe top team in nbba..That a sure lost for me in every eye of coaching aspects, Now i might can get a 20pt lost and thats good thing. But a win is laughbale and his/her team will have to play the worst basketball of the season for me to get that win.

I would be overjoyed by the win but i know it was a robbery and utter bul_. Gdp should not be on the game in league matches. Only in scrimmages , private leagues,cup matches,national team games. I can see the purpose of it within that aspect. But a league match its a sure robbery to lose to team thats 0-11