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Well it is true that both training youngsters and expanding your arena are good ways to start, but I think that it is much better to expand your arena at first(which pool clearly shows, it is 11-24 atm for arena expanding) especially with this new changes about overextension tax... Trainers are now much more expensive(and if you are not following that market, prices are going crazy atm:D), buying good trainee is not cheap either, you have to put a lot of hard work into his training, and in the end if you try to sell him, you probably wont get any profit, maybe even lose some money with him... Only way to actually earn some money is not to sell him, but to continue to train him, and get overextension for him, but salary for fully trained 22-23 year old is probably too much for low league club, which didnt expand his arena, is too big, and you will be forced to sell him...

To conclude, I believe that much better way to start is to expand your arena, and I am pretty much a newbie here, so I know all the problems newbies has to face:)

both it does go hand in hand very easily if you don't buy potential 8+ trainees.

just be patient a don't buy any player other than 2-3 cheap trainees. then loose one season, built your arena, draft a kickass HoF potential player and start to buy 1-2 players but don't spent to much over the minimum wage and learn to manage gameshape and motivation and win away games against bots.

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succeed.

For money that you need to spend to draft kickass HOF, you can easily buy 2 superstar trainees, and than we have same problems as I mentioned before... And of course it is best if you combine training with arena expansion, but the question was what is better: only to expand arena, or only to train youngsters, and I will have to say, it is expanding arena without any doubt :)

yes if you don't have enough money it is more important to build your arena. but still you can just buy 3 potential 7-8 18yo trainees for less than 30k each and train them along the way.

if the question would be what to do with your starting money i would say buy 3 decent trainees. and start to build afterwards. but this advice is only valid in countries where you start in league 3, 4 or 5. because the difficult part is not really to promote but to stay in league 3 and be competitive after your third season. and this is much easier if you have 3 players which you trained on your own. 3 players which are very good built, have good secondaries and fit your system perfectly, while also are good for fan revenue and always earn less than they are actually worth (while youl train thema at least).

in a micronation i would probably just built my arena and don't spent any other money for the first 16 weeks.

if you have to choose between building your arena OR train in the first 3 seasons. the answer would be ONLY arena, but it would not be a good advice to follow..

/edit: my advice above would still be valid if you don't draft a kickass HoF player. this just makes it easier because you can sell him at some point for a lot of money. if you want to train him it doesn't really matter if he is superstar or HoF. at least not until you are in a very high league. i would still recommend to invest some money in the draft while you are at the bottom of your league..especially in league 4 or 5

Last edited by jonte at 1/13/2014 4:59:23 AM

Exactly...you can buy the talent you need to advance in the begining.

In our discussion on the NT site, our newbie friend mentioned how difficult it was to understand the training nuances and how to put things into perspective right off the bat.

Its just a different perspective, I suppose. Looking back, I see the merit in going arena over training, I cant get to division 1 without going to division 2, and I cant get to division 2 with a 6429 person arena.

Last edited by Zucchini at 1/13/2014 6:49:00 AM

Your arena is too small and you have only one young player. Need some advice ? :D

Non sequitur.

I wouldn't have to say much to tell the truth. I was able to use my experience in other manager games I had played before this one to make mostly sane, beneficial decisions. If there's one thing I would tell myself though, it would be not to crunch time the last game of the season when you have nothing to gain from it.

http://www.buzzerbeater.com/league/1050/overview.aspx?sea...

Crunch Time affected my PD just enough to bump me down to the 6th draft pick instead of the 5th... costing me a 5/4 18yo SF in the draft. Cringeworthy when I look back at it...

Didn't cost me too much in the long run though; I managed to sell the guy I did get in that seasons draft for a pretty decent sum after training him for a couple of seasons, and ultimately landed someone even better in the season 22 draft class ;).