BuzzerBeater Forums

the construction of your team is something really interesting for me. You are using OD to prevent the shoots of the centers but on the other hand is unclear why OD wins against IS, JS and JR. You can't have a player strong in defense and in attack at the same level so you need to make a choice about the level of the skills; when you play against strong teams I suppose they have players with high level of IS and JS but some teams have also high levels in the defenses so when you've a 15 JS against a 15 or more OD I don't see any reason to win. I mean you can have lvl 20 in OD and you will stop a lot of offensive actions but when you've the ball your "weak" shooters have to face the OD of your opponent so as OD works for you, it should works for your opponents too. Where I'm wrong?

The simple reason OD wins against inside scoring is that it helps prevent the assisted shot, which high scoring big men convert at an extremely high percentage. I find that if your men guarding the big man have good OD, the number of uncontested shots drops and therefore so do points against. It also naturally helps with forcing turnovers against the big men who are still walking around to this day with inept handling / awful passing. If you can steal some possessions from your opponents by forcing turnovers, reduce their shooting percentage further by having the OD on your big men, your offensive target to hit suddenly is much lower than it would be otherwise. Combine that with not turning the ball over much yourself and good rebounding, and you should have plenty more opportunities to score than your opposition, and so even with a lower shooting percentage you can still quite often win.

thanks a lot to everyone, later 1 ball for all (3 points in total right? :p)

So in the 3 positions with the small players OD is extremely important and what about OD for the tall players? I saw a lot of center with OD lvl 1 having not bad scores so maybe at least for a center OD isn't necessary?
Till now I had a lot of experiments in BB now my target is to have a competitive team earning money at the end of the week. No idea if I'll be able to stay in second division but that's only because all the teams in my division are strong; the idea is to build players with let's say lvl 14 in all the skills, I don't know if these kind of players will be useful but for sure they costs nothing per week and they've a good market too.

you are a very clever cookie.

yes i would like to have a 'follow' button or something that shows up when Nachtmahr posted something ;)

Last edited by jonte at 6/4/2014 9:20:39 AM

You're like some kind of a statistics god, I find your posts really interesting to read. Keep up the good work!

it very easy to get a team of good guards. The kicker there is restriction on caps in value. I dislike that, if training is the way why should it matter how we spend our money.NO one should be cut from the same shame cloth , it creates boredom

Having extreme od will not "will" win all the time .You will need extreme scorers too. PA and rebound is the kicker in that, I see that you have that. The more better shooter you have , the better rebounders your going to need. They may sound silly but its true.. I don't have the offensive rebounds. I can go out and get better rebounds. Which im going to do next season.

I see why people quit the rebuilding training is just a horror show to watch on your team. I really get tired of nba allstar type games scores in lost when I have 4 defender with od 13-14 respectively.. The game is just senseless in rebuilding process . These new guy are not doing a damn thing for the money spent and to train. I thinking training is not for everybody. Having a 3pt team is hard work and every expensive long term because this is a inside game. The 2pts will be going in more than the 3pts.

I think building mid range shooting team is the smarter bet also having extreme free throw shooters and drivers. that what I think. btw my team was shooting 182.% from 3pts this season, . I did a few adjustment to get it above 300% this season. Some resulted in wild losses



Last edited by Mr. Glass at 6/4/2014 1:40:53 PM

I'm not going to quote your post, I'll just say a couple of things that should hopefully be helpful if taken to heart.

-- You're not shooting 300% this season from 3, or even 182%. (http://bit.ly/1ovARYA)

-- Winning with defense is definitely possible. But it's extremely hard (read: expensive) to be a lights out offensive team and a shutdown defensive team. Luckily, it's a lot easier to be a sound offensive team with a defensive club. If you can force your opponent to shoot low percentages, force a lot of turnovers, do not turn the ball over much yourself, and don't get destroyed on the offensive boards, you should have enough offense to scrape together wins. I always think of it as aiming to score 20 in a period and hold the opponent under 20 - do that four times in a game, and you win.

I do have throw my two cents into this conversation.

1) Although OD seems to awesome in nature, I think it gets a little too much attention. For one thing it takes extremely long to train. It may be awesome to have on other players, but on my own trainees I'd like them to have more skills overall. However I am planning to get my 6'11 SF superstar trainee up to 13 OD. If I try to spend more time training OD I will never have him reach his potential and SF tends to be a weak point on most teams anyway.

2) There are a lot of players on the market with 18+ OD. Adding one to the team is not that much of a challenge.

3) Not every player needs awesome OD. If you want a scoring specialist to make your offense more balanced it makes sense to do that. Trying to have your scoring specialist be a defensive specialist as well is truly costly. It can be done but find one below 100K salary with 18/12/18? You won't - none on the market as we speak.

4) I'd worry more about the economy and earning income than having the perfect team developed. If a player is too costly to buy or costs too much per week he is not good to have on your team. No matter how good his OD is.