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268432.10 in reply to 268432.7
Date: 3/23/2015 5:35:43 PM
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trainee and trainer go hand and hand , ,imo this were they differ trainee's get better over time for that money spent as you said, while trainers don't, just more expensive.

1million for trainee and another 1million for trainer don't make any good finance sense for any ball club.

With the logic I'm using. 1 million for trainee and 78k r the trainer plus a 2500k$ fee fee to sign.. is much more affordable. This will go down in both areas if we go cheaply. This creates more team revenue to do other thing like arena. Better trained player as well for everyone.

well on your last part . I keep my trainers for 2/5 season if that, I do go past advanced. I don't feel the rest are worth with it, with the "48 min a game" imbalances sometimes.







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268432.11 in reply to 268432.8
Date: 3/23/2015 6:15:37 PM
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You cant blame the Manager for "wasting" his money when its required to attain in the market.

I certainly can blame the manager, because a $500k bid is absolutely not required.

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268432.12 in reply to 268432.7
Date: 3/23/2015 6:23:23 PM
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I tend to agree that the auction system for staff isn't optimal, because an auction implies that the asset being purchased has some value but there's no way to recover some of that value by selling the asset later.

It is amazing to me how pervasive the idea of $-profit is in BB. It really isn't a basketball management sim, where the sole measure of success would be more W's than L's, and where a trainer would be hired for the sole objective of helping get more W's than L's. It is no wonder the idea of bringing the economy into line gains no traction -- everybody is like a kid in a candy story throwing around Monopoly money. Very discouraging, since I wanted this to be a basketball management sim, not a day-trader's paradise where vistory is measured in cash to the almost complete disregard of W's.

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268432.13 in reply to 268432.9
Date: 3/23/2015 6:25:48 PM
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On the other hand, there's the logic that you'll never spend too much on an auction if you don't make the bid, nor will you ever sell a player for less than you want if you set the price at the minimum you'd accept.
... and you'll never renew your roster if you don't make the bid, and see how well THAT works out for you.

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Date: 3/23/2015 7:41:14 PM
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I tend to agree that the auction system for staff isn't optimal, because an auction implies that the asset being purchased has some value but there's no way to recover some of that value by selling the asset later.

It is amazing to me how pervasive the idea of $-profit is in BB. It really isn't a basketball management sim, where the sole measure of success would be more W's than L's, and where a trainer would be hired for the sole objective of helping get more W's than L's. It is no wonder the idea of bringing the economy into line gains no traction -- everybody is like a kid in a candy story throwing around Monopoly money. Very discouraging, since I wanted this to be a basketball management sim, not a day-trader's paradise where vistory is measured in cash to the almost complete disregard of W's.


I was merely saying that an auction system only make sense (in my opinion) in an environment where the the asset being purchased is one where having a market setting a value makes sense. In a system with a fixed supply where the assets can not be returned to the market afterward, it makes more sense to have costs fixed.

I also might suggest that when you want to make a point about treating the game being a basketball sim and not an economy tycoon game, you don't lecture me on it - six of my nine primary players have been on my roster at least three *years* (not seasons, years), and two of the other three are well over 300 days tenure. My five deep reserves are three draftees and two guys with over 600 days tenure on my club.

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268432.16 in reply to 268432.14
Date: 3/24/2015 3:25:58 AM
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...there's no way to recover some of that value by selling the asset later.
I wasn't "lecturing" you and I apologize if I came off that way. I was merely observing how pervasive the almighty dollar is as an end in itself, whereas in a basketball management game W's should be the end in itself. In basketball, a team doesn't hire a coach or trainer with the idea of selling him at a later date -- period.

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268432.17 in reply to 268432.16
Date: 3/24/2015 9:03:40 AM
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...there's no way to recover some of that value by selling the asset later.
I wasn't "lecturing" you and I apologize if I came off that way. I was merely observing how pervasive the almighty dollar is as an end in itself, whereas in a basketball management game W's should be the end in itself. In basketball, a team doesn't hire a coach or trainer with the idea of selling him at a later date -- period.


Which is precisely why there shouldn't be an auction for them.

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268432.18 in reply to 268432.17
Date: 3/24/2015 12:12:01 PM
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I can't tell if you missed the point or if you're arguing Devil's advocate to keep the thread alive, so I'll let it drop.

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268432.20 in reply to 268432.19
Date: 3/25/2015 2:18:32 PM
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- Allow to promote a player as a trainer. The level of the trainer will depend not on how much you pay for it, but on his TSP at the moment when you decide to promote him. For example TSP>130 -> level 7; TSP>110 -> level 6; TSP>90 -> level 5 etc etc.
Allowing the manager to influence the player decreasing speed at a fixed convenient price, like 50k per 10 games.


I'm curious why you'd pick TSP at the moment of promotion. I'd think experience would probably be a better choice, or maybe maximum TSP during his career (which I think is stored because of the Hall of Fame), but you may have a better reason for this.

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