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296118.11 in reply to 296118.10
Date: 10/3/2018 10:54:44 AM
Tamarillo Wings
II.1
Overall Posts Rated:
710710
Second Team:
Slam Drunk Celtics
Through play by play usually you can see a player defending most of the shots of a specific opponent, meanwhile all the others will defend different players.

It could not be that easy understand the pattern because of 2 things (in my opinion):
1) With substitution you may see something different according to different lineups
2) If the best scorer on the other team has a lot of PA, he won't necessarily shoot the ball too much. If the +1 is working properly, the best scorer may definitely consider passing the ball a better option that shooting over the +1 defender and the Box. In some games I saw the best scorer taking somewhere around 6-7 shots, and to me the explanation is the one above.


Honestly, it's hard to reply regarding perimeter shots. Unfortunately my experience about Boxes isn't enormous and, most of everything, it's hard to shuffle lineups in order to test everything in a good way.
If you're going to play a Box with a "standard" lineup, likely a big men or a SF will be the +1 (because of the sum of ID+SB+OD, which seems to be, without being 100% sure in all cases, the criteria) leaving 2 guards and 2 out of the 2 wings+C forming the Box. With a lineup like that, if you're facing a good offensive flow, you may see a lot of perimeter shots because of mismatches you may have on the perimeter.
Is that due to the Box himself or due to the lack of OD in maybe 2 of your elements of the Box (ex. 2 big men)?
Hard to tell. I'd really like to play a Box with 5 SF with a pretty good balance between OD and ID. I do believe it could work in a pretty good way in terms of limiting "easy" shots. But I'm speculating, cause unfortunately I hadn't the chance to run tests like that

Last edited by GM-samusaran (ITA-Staff) at 10/3/2018 10:57:48 AM

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296118.13 in reply to 296118.12
Date: 10/3/2018 3:23:03 PM
Tamarillo Wings
II.1
Overall Posts Rated:
710710
Second Team:
Slam Drunk Celtics
That's true, more clarification would be good.

Talking about the +1, I'm otherwise fully convinced about what said before regarding inside and outside box, no particular doubts about that.

It's definitely not a go to defence, but it's hard to tell whether this is true because is less efficient regardless of players (as some offensive set, such as the isolations) or because of the poor interpretation of this strategy.
Exactly as the 3-2, absolutely not better than a m2m (I'm not talking about ratings) with unbalanced outside defenders or without proper big men

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296118.14 in reply to 296118.1
Date: 10/6/2018 11:07:40 PM
Overall Posts Rated:
6767
This is how it works.

Inside Box and One - 4 players stand near the painted area/free-throw area, and the best defender among the PG/SG/SF, locks down the best perimeter shooter of the opposing team. Best use against Look Inside/Low Post. Teams that rely heavily on their Cutters/Slashers (Driving), Post up players (Inside Shot), and Jump shooters (Jump Shot).

Outside Box and One - 4 players stand near arc/3pt. line, and the better defender between PF and C will protect the shaded area. Best use against Motion/Run and Gun. Teams that rely heavily on their outside shooters with PF as a stretch 4.

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296118.18 in reply to 296118.17
Date: 10/7/2018 12:28:45 PM
Durham Wasps
III.1
Overall Posts Rated:
16621662
Second Team:
Sunderland Boilermakers
The manual is wrong.

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296118.19 in reply to 296118.17
Date: 10/7/2018 12:38:58 PM
Oulu 76ers
SM-Koris
Overall Posts Rated:
246246
Been little busy but Won my game, by one point, back in Tuesday. Despite opponent playing run n gun, not patient as i expected. Maybe they read the forums as well but was willing to take the risk with that.

I went through the play by play, focusing on who defended shots and where. I will try to find time tomorrow to post my notes here in some sort of rreadaple form.. :D

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296118.20 in reply to 296118.15
Date: 10/7/2018 7:30:25 PM
Overall Posts Rated:
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Hi,

Like I said, you can only use this if the opposing team has an outside shooting PF (Kevin Love as reference), and with poor inside scoring as a team. Your team will form a box closer to the 3pt. line. And one man from your team will focus inside for cutters (mainly) of the opposing team.

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