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From: ZyZla

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34570.10 in reply to 34570.9
Date: 6/7/2008 8:44:15 AM
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I agree if would be just for NT competitions and B3... But this would need lots of programing work I think...

ZyZla - ZyZlūnas ZyZlavotas ~c(=
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34570.11 in reply to 34570.9
Date: 6/7/2008 8:48:31 AM
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If there will be any kind of limitation to earn maximum 10k per week if your tips are best

or lose maximum 10k if you are not so good stochistic


But the problem is, the maschine isn't good as stoichastik too, so there will be games where you could get easy money. And some winning bets in a row good make an influence.

One solution for that, that the pot of money(all bets at this games) was splitted on the Winning teams with maybe a loss of 5-10% provision for the betting provider.

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34570.12 in reply to 34570.11
Date: 6/7/2008 9:01:47 AM
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Well there are differences between betting and betting - the system for win something could be .. how to say . . CRAZY

:D

There are lot of systems which could be developed to make betting exciting and risky and could be automatic - just couple of people for thinking how the betting system could be setted up to have never 100 percent guarantee to get something (or maximum)

..while I'm looking for the wages which are many teams paying for oneeye monsters, and if you are lucky - few thousands per week in advance will not make a difference anyway

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34570.13 in reply to 34570.12
Date: 6/7/2008 9:45:47 AM
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..while I'm looking for the wages which are many teams paying for oneeye monsters, and if you are lucky - few thousands per week in advance will not make a difference anyway


And sometimes you wowonder how less one skill monster earn, i say a handling 17 driving 16 guy on the market before some days and he just earn 9.800$ - so there a huge differents betwenn some skills for the salray ;)

But i don't think thats the topic, and maybe you come to this because of my "solution propose", so i explain that with an example:

Match to Bet on betwenn A Ballers vs B Baskets

3 Player bet 10.000 on B Baskets
1 Player 5.000 on A ballers
1 Player 10 on A balelrs
Potsize : 45.000

If B Baskets win, the 3 guys who bet on then gets 15.000

If A Ballers win, one guy bekomes 30.000k back and the other 15k

Because betting ain't so easy and there are much factors which you should look for(in this game even tacticals like TIE/CTR or A-/B-/C- Team etc.) thats why it is nearly impossible to make this automatic. But with the system above, the quotas was made by the betters himself so you can't trick the system.


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34570.14 in reply to 34570.13
Date: 6/7/2008 9:58:59 AM
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good point

I try to think out any automatic system to make it more clear for you

Imagine the system which will automaticly analyse power of your team by ratings which you had on a past some weeks

..and this system will offer you (examples):

ticket where you can win or lose 2k - 1 "easy" game to bet, 2 "risky" games to bet (risky, because these two teams will have similar ratings (and can be included even best tactics and theirs power against actual oponent)

ticket where you can win or lose 5k - 3 "easy" game to bet, 4 "risky" games to bet

ticket where you can win or lose 10k - 5 "easy" game to bet, 5 "risky" games to bet

...and more of tickets from 1-10k

with a maximum to get or lose 10k by week so 1 rich ticket or more smaller


..this is only example, there could be more automatic systems, I thinked out this one now while I flushed the toilette, but there are possibilities, that's the point

Last edited by Iordanou at 6/7/2008 10:01:13 AM

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34570.15 in reply to 34570.14
Date: 6/7/2008 10:07:32 AM
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yeah but those automatic systems don't see injuries, or that Starplayers of team a play already 70 minutes and the games before ain't tie so he'll probadly tie this game with c team ;)

Such thinks are easy to see for humans, hard to see for maschines, i think such system works only proper at the first game, when both teams had to win(in league i sometimes go for on secure win, and "give up" the away game)

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34570.16 in reply to 34570.15
Date: 6/7/2008 10:14:33 AM
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this would be only for B3 games where is noone giving up

and if you are worthless after some injuries on B3, you shouldn't be there i think

I imagine my point that on the "betting engine" would be visible matches and marked like "risky" or "easy" for bet and you can bet and win all matches on your ticket or lose money

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34570.17 in reply to 34570.16
Date: 6/7/2008 10:28:20 AM
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this would be only for B3 games where is noone giving up


really? I think they are teams with more or less priority to there local cup or league.

Maybe when they take out the minutes for training like NT matches, this would help alot that the teams start with there best 5.

and if you are worthless after some injuries on B3, you shouldn't be there i think


There are some teams in the cup which make a good way in our country with a clear starting five, and i ain't sure but i believe the guy from the fourth leagues wh made it to the final last year ing ermany was one of then. And maybe you aren't worthless, but you are mcuh weaker, the german B3 teams lost many games in the league they normally wins, because they ain't got as good backups.


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34570.18 in reply to 34570.17
Date: 6/7/2008 10:37:55 AM
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really? I think they are teams with more or less priority to there local cup or league.

Maybe when they take out the minutes for training like NT matches, this would help alot that the teams start with there best 5.

betting can be started after some rounds where will be separated grain from the scum

..or it could be introduced only few times per season

There are some teams in the cup which make a good way in our country with a clear starting five

this will change by the time, the game will get older and more exciting - I don't think that the team can do league, cup and B3 by 5 players.. and if you decide to play B3, you will put there always your best I think because of the benefits (at least I would)

I'm not trying to convince you, I'm just trying to say that this would be interresting and it is possible

edit: I don't agree with "not" training players during a B3 game, isn't necessary to erase this benefit/difficulty

Last edited by Iordanou at 6/7/2008 10:41:19 AM

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34570.19 in reply to 34570.1
Date: 6/7/2008 11:19:58 AM
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I just had this crazy, yet fun idea while watching a 3B match. What if we could bet on a game? Even if it is small amounts (so the main economic structure of BB don't gets too affected, but some extra to maybe help the poor teams)

I don't get how betting can help the poor... The only thing I saw in real life was that betting made the poor even poorer (in fact, they actually became poor because they had been betting).

the proposed mini-game is something I think is not forbidden, so anyone who thinks he has the time, and has the courage to set up a system can start a thread (but not in the sugestions forum ofcourse)

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34570.20 in reply to 34570.18
Date: 6/7/2008 11:20:38 AM
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this will change by the time, the game will get older and more exciting - I don't think that the team can do league, cup and B3 by 5 players.. and if you decide to play B3, you will put there always your best I think because of the benefits (at least I would)


I pretty sure that there will ever differents, and if you aren't a total dominating player in your country, you had no extra team for B3 and to buy this need some time.

And i think even if the game is progressing, teams would have some stars not a lot average players, becuase i don't need the top players to win in the cup and a bit more quality in league could be pretty usefull.

In Cup there eare always promising teams from low devisin, who look that they got 8 strong players for a cup, and play with an weaker team in league and they don't get the money for so much good players but through focusssing they are pretty strong in cup and after it in their playOffs.


edit: I don't agree with "not" training players during a B3 game, isn't necessary to erase this benefit/difficulty


Yeah thats an point where we could discuss :)

Some people say splitting the team is a major mission and an important tactical choiche, i and some other wnat to play the strongest teams in B3, which plays the tactic where the manager ist mostly convinced of his succes and not which will fit best in their game plan(i got some players for outside and inside tactics)



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