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Do you want the +1 shield or the +2 shield? The percentage they cover could be 1 point but I want that +2 shield because it says it's supposed to be better.

As with every other game - who doesn't want the best guy on their team and would wonder what is the difference when it's not drastically notable? I am sure there is some difference in the level all the while I have considered it an interesting sugar pill (or placebo) if not.


But then you never know.... OJ was found innocent, and so was Robert Blake.....

Do you want the +1 shield or the +2 shield? The percentage they cover could be 1 point but I want that +2 shield because it says it's supposed to be better.
As with every other game - who doesn't want the best guy on their team and would wonder what is the difference when it's not drastically notable? I am sure there is some difference in the level all the while I have considered it an interesting sugar pill (or placebo) if not.

It's the best proof that managers are keen to spend a lot of money on lvl 6 and 7 trainers because this creates positive emotions but no significant value. But who can prevent people from talking placebo if they are feeling better...

Last edited by profit007 at 1/14/2009 5:01:21 PM

oh come on!

we arent that stupid or weak minded to even make ourselves believe that getting this higher level trainer doesnt work or aint worth the money.

i meant no offense, because 'IF" lets say a car manufacturer has a 1.6 valve car takes 5 secs to accelarate ( this are sample ) then here comes a 2.0 valve engine car that takes 3-4 secs to accelerate.

the cost of a 2.0 is already higher than a 1.6, surely even with a very small advantage is still called an advantage.

probably we wont even feel it where the difference is but there is.

im not good at this but i hope you got my point

I do not get your point. Sorry.

The question is not whether 6 is better than 5. The question is whether 6 at 850 000 dollars is better than 5 at 300 000 or 4 at 1000. In a game with a finaincial angle a player or coach's effectiveness must be measured against his cost, especially for teams without a huge budget surplus.

The answer is no for the majority of teams. Human nature compels us to defy this knowledge because we want the false comfort that having the highest number gives.

Having said that, if youhave a level 7 trainer and 2 18 year MVP potential trainees and are willing to concentrate on training them for four solid seasons, I imagine that at the end of that time you will be able to recoup your initial investment in the level 7 trainer.

I did? Good for me. I didn't think I understood at all what he wrote.

I did? Good for me. I didn't think I understood at all what he wrote.

Careful - you're sounding very Kozlodoev like in your retorts.

For me the level 6/7 trainer is a bit of a pipe dream. With a growing userbase I have not checked for a while if they are still dripping out one level 7 trainer a week or whether this has sped up.

All i ever see is an opening bid of $2.5mil which seems to be the norm (not sure if thats what they end up selling for or not)

The way I see it is that if the transfer market ever becomes inflationary again then the price of these coaches then starts to become more justifiable.

The primary reason I havent even bothered to look into it further is because I cannot see for a while yet inflation on the horizon. Training profits seem to be falling and its now revenue profits which are dictating the economic success of your franchise. Training now for me is to sharpen existing players you want to keep for the long term. For more established teams the ability to buy players with better upside potential is far greater than the ability to train them a little bit faster.

I picked up a 6 trainer w/ fitness for 700k. Maybe not worth the money but my players are getting older and nearer to their cap, getting boring waiting 4 weeks for a pop. We'll see if it makes any difference.

If you can let us know which is this difference you'll give us a big favour ;)

Sure, if it works out I'll make sure to let you all know its a waste of money

First of all- My sincerest apologies. A) I honestly didn't understand the original post to which I replied. I neither had nor have any intention of sounding like Kozlodoev.

I agree with your analysis in the final paragraph. Training for me has always been more about improving my team than selling my players. I am not addicted to seeing pops. I have always mostly relied on ticket revenue so I paid the extra coin for a level 6 PR guy. My merchandise revenue went up drastically over the level 10 guy ( and subsequent level 5 after he was retooled)I had before. Still, the "drastic" rise was enough to pay a week's salary for my best player, which is about the salary of your backup towel guy. This 20k isn't gonna make or break me, but I think it will eventually recoup the 240k I paid in the dizzying days of the new staff arrivals.

As far as trainers, I looked today and a level 6 was $800,000 with an hour left to bid, a level 5 was $300,000with about the same, and a level 4 was 6 grand with three minutes left to bid. I think those prices are a bit lower than a month ago, and by the time my current level 5 trainer's salary begins to bug me I think they'll be down even more. I certainly own't hesitate to get a level 4 if they aren't, though.