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From: Jokehim

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Date: 2/23/2009 9:46:13 AM
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If so, will a team with just two human teams and one of them ending with 7-15 and the other one winning Playoff have both teams promoted instead of a promoting three teams from a league with only human teams? Does not really make sense if they prefer to promote two teams from similar league.

But I have collected won-loss records for all teams in division III in Sweden so I will be able to draw a conclusion about the promotion process for the bot cleanup after that.

Also wonder if a league won by a bot will mean that best non-bot team will be promoted instead of it or if best team from that division will be promoted instead.

I would very much have liked to have the rules for promotions after bot cleanup explained in the rules as an appendix. Would be beneficial for some teams. I think it would even be a nice idea to have a reserve list for each division so that teams could be warned well in advance about possible promotions

From: Jokehim

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Date: 2/23/2009 9:48:29 AM
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I still think that it is strange that best team in regular season are chosen ahead of playoff losers after bot clean-up. Teams still get a huge benefit from winning the league so for me it does make sense that if you manage to reach far in playoffs that will be more rewarded even if it means that you could wait until days before playoff to strengthen your team. Such strategy are not especially wise though as players are much more expensive close to Playoff than at start of season.

From: Marlin

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Date: 2/23/2009 9:50:17 AM
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Well, I'm not sure about the sense either, but in the past it was this way. Maybe it's different now.

But I have the answer for the league winning bot. As I understood, which may be wrong, the bot team gets promoted and immediately demoted, and his place is taken by whatever team was among those with adequate record and that won the conference. So the human team that didn't win against the bot should remain in the same league.

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Date: 2/23/2009 9:54:16 AM
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I disagree. Best teams after regular season should be preffered. Strange things happens in one game series so I don't think why someone who sneaks into playoffs someohow get into league finals should get better draft pick and bot promotion. What's the point to have a good record then?!

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Date: 2/23/2009 7:07:04 PM
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No, only if you've won your conference, AND have the record required, you can get promoted. So no more than one per league.

At least that's what happened in the past.

Just to be sure - are you aware of the possibility non-winner of any conference can win it all?

I can't say if winning a conference is a criteria but i can confirm best record followed by best point differential as next criteria is correct. No team which would have a record good enough and didn't win its conference at the same time occured in my county to prove the winning a conference thing.

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Date: 2/23/2009 11:17:59 PM
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I still think that it is strange that best team in regular season are chosen ahead of playoff losers after bot clean-up. Teams still get a huge benefit from winning the league so for me it does make sense that if you manage to reach far in playoffs that will be more rewarded even if it means that you could wait until days before playoff to strengthen your team. Such strategy are not especially wise though as players are much more expensive close to Playoff than at start of season.


I'd agree with this. I had the same situation way back in Season 2.

By leaving how it currently is, a team could waste enthusiasm trying to get a better regular season record in order to promote by bot cleanup (if bot cleanup is obviously going to happen), and lose in the first round of the playoffs.

Another team could save their enthusiasm for the playoffs, sacrificing a couple of meaningless (for playoff seeding) games in the process, and make the finals.

I feel the competitive nature of BB should always be pointed at going further in the playoffs. Why have playoffs at all if the regular season records are valued higher?

From: Marlin

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Date: 2/24/2009 8:59:32 AM
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Yes, obviously a non conference winner can win it all, through the playoffs. But we were talking about bot cleanup relegation there.

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Date: 2/24/2009 9:41:06 AM
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No, only if you've won your conference, AND have the record required, you can get promoted. So no more than one per league.

At least that's what happened in the past.

Just to be sure - are you aware of the possibility non-winner of any conference can win it all?

I can't say if winning a conference is a criteria but i can confirm best record followed by best point differential as next criteria is correct. No team which would have a record good enough and didn't win its conference at the same time occured in my county to prove the winning a conference thing.

That has been confirmed in other threads. Afraid that I could not check exactly how BB selects team for promotion if a lot of teams relegated after bot removement as most of our inactive and especially banned teams were not bots before new season.

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Date: 2/24/2009 12:19:43 PM
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Well, that was more of a report of this season observations than argument from me. I was bored because I faced a play off upset and had a longer off season than I wanted:)

From: docend24

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Date: 2/24/2009 12:20:36 PM
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Read it again. I was relevant.

From: Marlin

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Date: 2/24/2009 12:22:21 PM
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I was just anwering your question. The other part was right on topic.

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