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77169.10 in reply to 77169.9
Date: 2/27/2009 10:33:07 AM
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it's possible.

I can only talk from experience and I know my 2/6 center makes a lot more 3 pointers then my 5/1, but then again these last numbers are both 1 less...

But it seems the 2/6 -er doesn't seem to have TOO much trouble sinking 3's, even with his 2 on jump shot... possible bad OD from the opposing center had to do with it too.

I also have a 5/5, but I don't exactly recall him taking many 3 pointers, or for that matter making many...

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77169.11 in reply to 77169.10
Date: 2/27/2009 12:10:00 PM
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It was my understanding that JR is more like a modifier to JS. The shot starts with your JS rating, then applies a range modifier for distance. Either the range modifier is altered or the JS/range ratio is modified by the JR. At a certain distance and beyond the 2/6 will hit more shots than the 5/1. At least this is the way I understand it.

It is pretty rare to see a guy shoot a 3 without jumping at least a little.

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77169.12 in reply to 77169.11
Date: 2/27/2009 12:19:24 PM
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I understood it the same way.

possibly the 5/1 will also try a lot less to shoot from distance since he knows his shot clearly worsens with every step away from the basket. While the 2/6 doesn't realy care from where he shoots, since his shot is bad from anywhere. He did sink in some though, and also a little more then expected. Possibly sheer luck, or as said before atrocious OD on the defender...

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77169.14 in reply to 77169.11
Date: 2/27/2009 4:06:39 PM
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I think also that JR is a modifier to Jump Shot skill... Jump Range is worthless without jump shot

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77169.15 in reply to 77169.11
Date: 2/27/2009 5:58:25 PM
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It was my understanding that JR is more like a modifier to JS. The shot starts with your JS rating, then applies a range modifier for distance.



Agreed

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77169.16 in reply to 77169.9
Date: 2/27/2009 10:28:03 PM
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In Buzzerbeater there are only two kinds of shots- inside shots and jump shots- at least as far as the Game Engine is concerned. I don't know where the boundaries are but I imagine that shots taken in the key are inside shots and shots taken outside the key are jump shots. Jump range is a modifier for jump shots, based on the distance from the hoop.

In real life there are many types of shots- hook shots, dunks, layups, floaters, scoop shots, jump shots, set shots, and finger rolls come to mind. In general a player jumps while taking all of them except for set shots.

I think that the OD of the man guarding the shooter is VERY important in the equation of whether a shot goes in or not. I have a player who is 10 JS and 9 JR who until recently has been an amazing scorer. Lately I have been playing in a private league with teams far superior to mine and my "amazing score" has gone a combined 1-21 in his last two games against players with what I have to imagine are very high OD ratings.

Once I scored a basket that still makes me laugh.
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77169.17 in reply to 77169.13
Date: 3/1/2009 3:06:42 PM
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I think you're under the impression that your big men sink more threes than they actually do. Your best 3pt shooter among your PF/C shot .292 on only 7-24.


considdering their jumpshot skill, I think that is a quite good %

I might be wrong, but isn't it so that in real basketball the centers seldom perform 3 point shots?

Because if I am wrong, that is where my misunderstanding lays. Actually I see every 3 pointer made by a center as a bonus, since I don't expect them to make any...

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77169.18 in reply to 77169.17
Date: 3/1/2009 6:08:23 PM
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I might be wrong, but isn't it so that in real basketball the centers seldom perform 3 point shots?


Most centers don't put up a lot of threes, but there are a few who do. I believe that Matt Bonner (Center, San Antonio Spurs) actually leads the NBA in 3-pt percentage right now, right around 50%.

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77169.19 in reply to 77169.16
Date: 3/2/2009 7:40:09 PM
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In real life there are many types of shots- hook shots, dunks, layups, floaters, scoop shots, jump shots, set shots, and finger rolls come to mind. In general a player jumps while taking all of them except for set shots.


This is the definition of Jump Shot I got from googling it: "Jump shot (basketball), an attempt to score in basketball and netball by jumping, usually straight up, and in mid-jump, propelling the ball in an arc into the basket. unlike a normal shot where your feet stay on the ground."

So I think this includes some of the ones you mentioned, like floaters, or maybe fade-aways or fall-aways etc. Inside shot could be considered a dunk or finger roll, and a layup too (short guy w/IS)

Thank goodness we dont have to train for each type of shot that there is a name,lol :P

Last edited by Heathcoat at 3/2/2009 7:42:08 PM

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77169.20 in reply to 77169.17
Date: 3/4/2009 3:54:55 PM
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Centers (or better - bigmen) which are well guarded around the basket and has solid Jumpr Range sometimes shoot a few treys and make them - it appears t be they are totally unguarded. I'm speking about centers with low Jump Shot skill and higher (than JS) Jump Range. Not just my observations. It's not that common but it happens.