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From: Hoosier

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Date: 2/4/2012 2:15:58 PM
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When you say better, I am going to assume you purely mean from an offensive stand point. The Clip are clearly better Offensively. The Lakers are first in the nba in fg % allowed, clippers 20th. Lakers are 3rd in points allowed, clippers are 23rd. Lakers margin of victory is 3.1 compared to the clip of .6. Lakers are 3rd rebounding differential, clip are about 20th. Lakers are a elite defensive and rebounding team, the clip are below average. How much will a 34 year old kmart help? We will see but the overall difference between the two teams is minimal in my opinion.

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From: Stauder

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The Clippers have had injuries to three of their starters and have had a much tougher schedule. They have more impressive wins (OKC and Miami) than the Lakers as well. You can throw out all kinds of stats. Defensive statistics are affected when you play the fast paced style that the Clippers do. What I think is funny is that the Clippers take care of the ball better than the Lakers. Less turnovers. AND they force more turnovers than the Lakers do. It's funny that the Lakers do not play at the pace the Clippers do yet turn it over more often. Asst/TO ratio also goes in the Clips favor. Now on offense the Lakers are the 20th best offensive team and the Clippers are the 4th. A big reason why is because of 3pt% which the Clippers win by a landslide. If the Lakers could shoot the ball they may have an argument, but the Clippers can score down low, off the alley-oop, and from behind the arc. Now that the Clippers are healthy they are noticeably better. They have won 5 out of the last 6 games and have been shooting lights out lately because they are at full strength. 48% from 3pt range tonight and 54% overall. They are tough to beat that way. Random stat that doesn't excuse their only loss int he last 6 but is interesting: Only the Thunder have won the 2nd game of their back to back to back stretch thus far. Denver was LAC's 2nd game of three in a row.

We haven't even talked about how LAL are old and they won't sustain their level of play all season...but that's another debate for another day I guess.

From: Hoosier

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I agree the Clip are better offensively. But I am not in agreement that you can argue away the fact they are below average at opponent fg %, rebound differential and margin of victory based on tempo. Those are stats that are tempo proof. Either you stop people or you don't. Either you get more rebounds or you don't. Either you score more or you don't. And in this crazy season everyone has injuries, and everyone is tired. Everyone is going to have down game based on scheduling. But i think after close to 20 games you cam spot trends. If the clippers are better at stealing but are giving up a high percentage from the field, probably means they gamble too much defensively. The clippers aren't a good defensive or rebounding team, the Lakers arent a great offensive team. They are 1-1 head to head, they are very close in the standings. Lakers do need to rectify their pg position...I believe I have gone on about that topic enough however. The Clippers give up a lot of points in the paint. The only good defensive player on that team is Chris Paul actually. The rest range from below average to average. Again we will see what K Mart has left. We will see if Chauncey and Caron can stay healthy. A lot of questions on that side as well.

I had okc as my favorite to win the title preseason. I still think Miami has rebounding and pg problems. I don't see how adding another wing in Battier is going to help come playoff time when wade and lebron aren't coming out. Dallas has no shot this year. They aren't built very well anymore. I see nothing out of any other team to rank anyone above the Thunder currently. I think westbrook and Durant compliment each others games really well, and they will figure it out. I like the thunders interior defense a lot as well.

From: #24CMAN

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Date: 2/7/2012 10:42:38 PM
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Update: Chauncey billups iz out 4 da season. Srry Clips, gotta wait till nxt time around. Somehow someway the clips always have sum bad luck. i knew it was gunna happen sooner or l8tr. Now no question lakers are the better team. they were b4 but now even more so.

From: Stauder

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Date: 2/7/2012 10:47:59 PM
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How were they a better team before? Not by record. Not by the eye test. Not by quality wins. Of course the Lakers are 4-6 in their lasts 10 games, I guess that's proof. The Clippers have won 6 out of the last 7 including a big win against OKC.

From: #24CMAN

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Date: 2/9/2012 5:37:39 PM
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the clips lost 2 da cavaliers last nite. the lakerz will beat boston tonite so....................................................................................... the better team is???

From: Stauder

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Date: 2/9/2012 8:12:40 PM
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The Clippers? They lost 1 game right after Billups. They need to adjust. The Lakers lost to the Sacramento Kings, who are far worse than the Cavs. I'm not a fan of using one game though so that's why I bring up all of my other points in previous posts.

From: #24CMAN

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Date: 2/9/2012 9:11:58 PM
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the lakers are better tah n the clips, da clips won't go past da 1rst round

From: MPL

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Date: 2/9/2012 10:27:58 PM
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Seems legit.

From: Murl

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Date: 2/10/2012 4:26:14 PM
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Kobe might not make it to the off-season. Steve Nash for that matter too. A 36,38 y/o man can lead a team so far. Kobe is gonna be on the bench in a suit because he doesn't know when enough is enough. Clippers might not make it pass first round but "time is the oldest master and nothing is set in stone".


From: Stauder

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Date: 2/11/2012 7:43:15 AM
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Heck, the Lakers won't either. The Lakers may not make it to the first round....I mean they just lost to the Knicks WITHOUT Amare and Carmelo.

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