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,but have the money for being farm temas only with irregular transaction,this thing is different from a user who plays for a lot of time but now he cannto spend time on BB and so leave his teams to the NT staff

i know such teams from HT, and i can say it only for germany swiss there - and germany here ;)

This teams are still played from this players who own thems before they thinking about quiting, and around 30-40% sell them after an while and starts playing seriously again(HT experienced currently we have no team like it in germany but we searching to motivate quitters to play further with NT players) . And say thing that they are happy about it, and now are motivated again to play it conservative.

And if they multi acc delete it, that illegal even today so we don't need an extra rule for it.

Last edited by CrazyEye at 5/12/2009 8:27:25 AM

No the problem is that no-one wants to even confirm that certain teams are run as secondary accounts for the benefit of national teams.

Not too put too fine a point on it, but this is crap.

Running "secondary accounts" (i.e. multiple teams) is cheating. All cheating reports are investigated. Any user can report a suspected cheater.

Do you actually know how many multi account users does BB have? I stumble upon 1-3 every day. I try to make time to report all of those. I try to look for atleast one cheater a day in estonia but in the meantime looking on my old players+some other transfers and usually stumble upon a multi account. Most of those have been actively trading not one but 3 seasons. So even without looking I see atleast 1 cheater outside estonia per day.
+ the farm teams are extra careful to cover their tracks.

Do you actually know how many multi account users does BB have? I stumble upon 1-3 every day. I try to make time to report all of those. I try to look for atleast one cheater a day in estonia but in the meantime looking on my old players+some other transfers and usually stumble upon a multi account. Most of those have been actively trading not one but 3 seasons. So even without looking I see atleast 1 cheater outside estonia per day.
+ the farm teams are extra careful to cover their tracks.

I don't know how many multiaccounts there are, no. I don't understand what your point is.

Number of banned cheaters this week: 125

I guess they work on making the game cheater-free.

First, my not-so-serious point against farm teams. I refuse to let my players play against a bunch of animals!

Second, my real point about farm teams. They are too far removed from reality, and in my mind detract from the overall experience with this game. Yeah, yeah, this is not reality (you mean it's not?), and there are plenty of things that are clearly not realistic, so we just have to use our imaginations and look past those sorts of things. But a large idea, like the existence of teams that sucks egg, but somehow manage to have developing superstars playing with a bunch of bench warming rejects and they develop into a Michael Jordan and LeBron James lookalikes in this environment is too hard to fathom as possible.

So, that being said, I'm not going to suggest how to prevent this from happening since that's already being discussed in this thread. I'm just going to state that it is my opinion that the existence of this unrealistic situation is hurtful to the game overall, and if can be fixed, it should be fixed. A lot of time is spent getting the stats of the players, the flow of the live games, and so many other elements to be realistic. One of the qualities of this game to be a simulator of some sorts. Things will never be perfect, and some things will always be far from perfect (players don't have contracts, etc.), but first we need to acknowledge the shortcoming, and then figure out if and how it can be improved.

And I will state, once more for emphasis, my team will absolutely, under no circumstances, play against any animals! Not even the Detroit Pistons!

superflys crys up every to weeks about a farm team ;)

superflys crys up every to weeks about a farm team ;)

ahh so we are at least getting around to the fact that they exist (although GM's are banning about 125 teams a week!)

by reading this thread there is just denial that such a practice exists.

i think you can say i've been 'crying out'.......or would you prefer me to sit back and just accept the situation.

people 'cried' for ages over day-trading because it was seen to be damaging to the game.... well this is far worse (in my opinion) and the more it continues the less and less chances there are becoming for giving a genuine career to a NT player.

@ Dr. - Italian/Latvian/Brazilian... its not the nationality in question. They just happened to be the ones that were easy to spot. If teams really had been set up for transfers of 10-30k wage players and this has been going on for much longer then that is pretty sad.

Training young players makes sense, that's not farming.

superflys crys up every to weeks about a farm team ;)

ahh so we are at least getting around to the fact that they exist

because you every week say something like it - great fact for it :) I should cry for naked woman who falling out of Sky with huge ... Maybe they exist after a while.

Mmmh wait, i don't say that they don't exist, i just say that it is difficult to rate those teams objective to make this a ban criteria.

i think you can say i've been 'crying out'.......or would you prefer me to sit back and just accept the situation.

i don't like to ban teams because of it, maybe we could change the game that even NT players keep atractive for the top teams as the BB said in the past - but this will go over the salary and as far as i understand then then don't want to chancge it (i make a thread about one season ago).

To ban teams, isn't a solution and if you say they are all from one person then you could ban then after the rules ... But don't ban teams who rebuild their rooster, and have one of their old player who earn more then the rest ;)

@ Dr. - Italian/Latvian/Brazilian... its not the nationality in question.

that was my intention with this post above, that you don't want attack the italian community ;)