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The way you formulated it sounds about right.

Like i said, currently it isn't worth it to get level 7 trainer mainly because the insane money you have to pay in order to sign the trainer. Not because it's a smaller % increase.

No, it actually is a combination of the two: the level 7 coach is not worth it because the price you pay is too large for the small increase in training he might offer. You can't evaluate one independently from the other.

You berate another user for asking what extra results a lvl 7 trainer is showing by responding 'How can it be possible to know when we've only been using the new staff system for 2 weeks' so how can you continue to argue whether they are worth it or not?

If you have 3 Hall of Famers with 80 points worth of collective stats and the taxes drop next season and the transfer market picks up - you potentially are sitting on a goldmine. $1.5mil can be made with 3-4 daytrades if you really want to raise the cash for a lvl7 trainer.

You have to evaluate the cost and potential increase in training speed relative to the trainees you have to use the trainer on. It sounds like you are evaluating it based on your own rationale and if the answer is that 'its too expensive' it is only because you dont believe there is enough value to make an impact on YOUR trainees...

with 35,000 managers and only a handful of lvl7 trainers being sold, yes some may have been auctioned off as shiny new toys but Im willing to bet that some have ended up in the hands of skilled managers that will end up getting the 1.5mil and increased wages back in training profits over and above those of us who prefer to play it safe and crow at those brave enough to splash out fees we cant/dont wish to try and justify.

I provided a simple calculation of what a level 7 coach actually gives you in terms of training based on a pure guess about his effect. Which particular part of it did you not like?

Also, I didn't actually berate anyone, and as you might have noticed we've figured the situation out since then.

From: GM-kozlodoev
To: bobans 381.781 in reply to 381.780
Date: 22/10/2008 08:57:43 any new data with the new staff system changes? what is the impact of lvl 7 trainer on training speed?

You don't really expect people to figure this out after 1 week of training with the new staff now, do you?


Here was your reaction to an innocent poster.

What I dont like is again you are basing your argument as you admit on your own guess.... so when you say it is not worth it.. this is based on your guess.. some others believe it or not have guessed differently (rightly or wrongly as we all know is not yet known although hinted at by the BB team who say that 1.5mil is over the odds)

Even if this figure is closer to 500k or 1mil - i have said that 2-3 successful day trades (or normal training / selling) will easily get you this and for a new team starting out they could effectively write off their first season and if they imagine starting even later then the money they generate could help them obtain one of these trainers which will surely bring them back above the growth curve by season 3/4....

Sure. Everyone is free to disagree and do the same calculations I did replacing 10% with whatever number they see fit and draw their own conclusions. Regretfully, most people are not interested in doing that.

If you think that a level 7 coach will train your players 20% or 50% faster, by all means, go dump all your savings in getting one. I picked the first number I thought of, which would have been on the high end of what I would have used, were I designing the system.

If you have a GM next to your name you should be careful in posting. Many people believe that you actually know something about the game and take what you post as fact. When, in fact, what you post is a guess but is presented with pompous bluster and condescension it only hurts the community.

I'll just add my comment that the new staff system hurts my enjoyment of the game rather than helps it.

The old system was fine, and made much more sense from a standpoint of logic.

If you have a GM next to your name you should be careful in posting. Many people believe that you actually know something about the game and take what you post as fact. When, in fact, what you post is a guess but is presented with pompous bluster and condescension it only hurts the community.

You should read more carefully:

Obviously, I have no inside information on the exact detail

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The issue isn't as much reading carefully as your general tone. You respond to posters in a condescending manner quite often. Additionally, if you say you have no inside information once in a thread, but berate other users for their opinions 10 times, it lessens the impact of your disclaimer.

You, as well as everyone else around, are welcome to your opinion.