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From: B.B.King

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244808.102 in reply to 244808.89
Date: 8/10/2013 9:30:58 AM
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To the best of my knowledge NO ONE is using, or should be using th Nippon DB you created.

This sentence only proves that your best knowledge is worthless. There are Japan NT/U21 players, who are playing in other countries and you can't control what all they do. (As long as you haven't more than one account). This DB is used by few owners. Less than in Poland, but there are less Japan players in BB.

I don't care what Maeda's skills are.

And therefore both Japan teams, NT and U21 are, where they are, outside 2nd round. I think NT/U21 Coaches and users, who support NT/U21, should care what skills of NT/U21 players are. If not, then happens things like:
- NT Coach is banned because of cheating
- U21 Coach is lying about skills of his player to justify he is in lineup.

Since YC is not using him right now, there is no chance of foul play. If he was lying about his player's stats to get justification to put him in games, that might seem fishy...but he isn't even using him. No harm, no even chance of foul.

No chance of foul? It's joke? Maeda played 14 of 22 games in U21 since his draft.

I can only imagine what would happen on forum if I used my own weak player as NT coach and I lied about his skills ;-) I can only imagine your loooong posts how bad it is ;-)

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244808.103 in reply to 244808.91
Date: 8/10/2013 9:41:16 AM
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I could care less what BB King thinks....and I won't be sharing my stats on his database....I already shared them in this forum.

If you admitted, that one of skill wasn't correct, why should we trust you, that other skills aren't overestimated too? Salary calculator shows, that skills, which you described, are too high. However calculator could be wrong. If you don't want to use my DB you can use buzzer-manager tool. Many users are using buzzer-manager, I even expect that few of them are from Japan, I didn't create this tool, so it should be trustworthy. You can prove without doubt that you are truthful and I'm wrong.

From: malice

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244808.104 in reply to 244808.102
Date: 8/10/2013 10:08:50 AM
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Well, this is something of a disappointment.

Last edited by malice at 8/10/2013 10:24:11 AM

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244808.106 in reply to 244808.104
Date: 8/10/2013 12:51:20 PM
Kitakyushu
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Like GM Niko says......Don't feed the Trolls, they will never leave.

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244808.107 in reply to 244808.105
Date: 8/10/2013 4:29:54 PM
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1. Nobody is banned from Buzzerbeater if he doesn't deserve it! (...) Moreover, discussing staff-decisions is strictly forbidden in the forums.

I want to accent that I never dispute this decision about ban, it's only simple fact from Japan BB history.
I talked about ban for Taiyo, former NT Coach of Japan. It's well known fact and isn't hidden for community. Many times even GM announced ban for NT or U21 Coach, because community deserves to know what happens and we can't imitate that there was no ban.

And there are no databases involved here.

I don't know what do You want to say. I only showed two ways, in which it is possible to show in trustworthy way skills of own players - Japan DB or buzzer-manager's tool. 3rd way is to put player on TL with 99M starting price.

2. The salary calculator counts the salary with player's current skills, but the salary itself is calculated with player's skills at the beginning of the season, (?)11 weeks ago. 11 weeks are enough time for 3OD pops.
Please imagine, that one of the best salary calculator tool in BB is created by me. I helped Josef Ka when he made study and calculations with formulas. So it's safe to assume that I know how salary and salary calculator work in BB.
Last salary update was 9 trainings ago, not 11. Yellow Cake posted skills before last training so it was even only 8 trainings after salary update, not 11. I agree, it's possible to make 3 OD pops, but it changes nothing. If You put skills written by YC to salary calculator, You can see that salary for PF position is almost doubled. OD has no impact on salary for PF possition (I assume that You know how salary works in BB), it's impossible for so small player, if only outside skills were trained. If skills written by YC would be true, then salary calculated 8 weeks earlier, should be higher. Moreover - history of Maeda's games tell us, that OD could be trained not more than 5 times. So there is only one conclusion - skills written by YC are false. If You claim that I'm wrong - it's simple way to prove it, YC should show Maeda's skills.

3. You can't control nothing but your own team, no matter if it's in Japan or somewhere else.

I agree again. And therefore Wolph can't know that nobody is using DB. I can know that few users are using it, because I made this DB.


I want to accent as well, that I don't think that discusion about skills of U21 players is offtopic or trolling in this topic. I think that presentation of false skills and misleading others is thing, which shouldn't happen.


Talking changes nothing. Therefore to make something good for Japan NT/U21 I want to propose deal, which should be fair. If Yellow Cake proves, that current (not future from crystall ball) Maeda's skills are the same as he described, I promise to train Japan player for NT or U21 with level 7 trainer. I made two U21 players in row in Poland, I won NT World Championships so I think I know how to train players to make them good for NT or U21. Of course Japan NT or U21 Coach could select player to train.

I think it's fair and everybody should be happy. If Yellow Cake wrote truth, it should be no problem to use buzzer-manager's share skills tool or to put him on TL with price impossible to bid.

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From: malice

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244808.109 in reply to 244808.108
Date: 8/10/2013 7:38:44 PM
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Inappropriate to do that shinaga. And could get you a ban...

http://with-malice.com/ - The half-crazed ramblings of a Lakers fanatic in Japan
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244808.110 in reply to 244808.107
Date: 8/10/2013 9:09:50 PM
Kitakyushu
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**Yellowcake driving through the country side with his family**

Son: Daddy, look a TROLL!!!

Mom: Yuck!! It is a big nasty cyber TROLL!!

YC: Just ignore the big nasty troll and all his hollow promises. He has no business even being in the Nippon country side(forums).

Daughter: Why is he here?

YC: I guess he feels irrelevant in his own country's forums so he has come here to feel relevant.

Son: Do you think it is working?

YC: No!! He is a troll no matter where he goes. So just ignore him and never feed him.

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244808.112 in reply to 244808.111
Date: 8/10/2013 9:25:13 PM
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This is a very funny thread I hope all of you keep fighting forever :P

If BBKing does train a Nippon player it will be by far the best thing he has ever done for us.

To encourage the bickering I am giving +1s all round lol

Last edited by Lord Toranaga at 8/10/2013 9:25:52 PM

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