BuzzerBeater Forums

Help - English > Overextention tax

Overextention tax

Set priority
Show messages by
This Post:
11
252784.102 in reply to 252784.100
Date: 12/30/2013 6:31:28 PM
Overall Posts Rated:
137137
You sit here and play the fence when you now better. Talent cost money if you trained them or not.Every manager is not going to be a guru trainer. This why there is market and this why there is money for team saving to use such maret to buy.

Why should a manage be punished for saving for the future? Hell a decent person would say if your team cost 500K a season to run you need 2.5 million in the bank to be safe. But that's not case here on BB. Train a draft pick who is never going good unless your a guru trainer.

Overspending for a players is the natural ability of the market, its free market( its rare that you underspend for good player) . If I needed a guard for said tactic and have 100k to spend. It only natural that I go 200k after that purchase, Because im not only man with eyes for a guard in that tactic on the market.

As for your other comments . I built more profits and won games with a bad team that never played Li/Lp than you could do with a good team that you say you have... I have amassed over 16 million in 10 season. If I wanted to buy my way to the top its not hard to do. So before you open your mouth about my acumen judge your own. And maybe your sf wouldn't shoots so bad in push the ball. btw Im not in debt, I could buy a full team 80$k week players if wanted too.

Not as hard as it seems. I'm about tactics not just winning and havinga boat load of money, maybe if understand that,you wouldn't be so bitter.

This Post:
22
252784.103 in reply to 252784.102
Date: 12/30/2013 7:28:25 PM
Headless Thompson Gunners
Naismith
Overall Posts Rated:
716716
Second Team:
Canada Purple Haze BC
I can't get through all your ramblings but
there are 10 year olds in this game that understand the training
no way a trained player with any kind of potential can't get past $6000 in salary
there are cheap trainers that will train any kind of player
the better the players get, the better your team is, the more they are worth
that you trained a player from 2000 to 6000 shows a complete lack of understanding of how this game works
it renders all of your arguments unreadable after the first paragraph
it also shows that you've wasted plenty of time
sorry...Just the facts man

This Post:
11
252784.104 in reply to 252784.102
Date: 12/30/2013 7:31:51 PM
Overall Posts Rated:
774774
you wouldn't be so bitter.

Who is the one complaining?

You seem to think training is black and white. Either you're a horrific god-awful ineffective useless good for nothing trainer or a "training guru".

Which one are you?

I also love your, how am I going to put it, "Glassisms"? Something about cutting a bull who's just out playing with a fence in the sunshine. I coughed up my nutrigrain bar laughing.

Last edited by Kumiko (CAN U21) at 12/30/2013 7:33:25 PM

If you remember me, then I don't care if everyone else forgets.
This Post:
00
252784.106 in reply to 252784.105
Date: 12/30/2013 7:53:42 PM
Overall Posts Rated:
536536
time to get people off the fence and cast a vote as to how they believe the new change (over extension tax) will affect the game


(253111.1)




This Post:
00
252784.107 in reply to 252784.102
Date: 12/30/2013 8:27:28 PM
Overall Posts Rated:
32293229
You sit here and play the fence when you now better. Talent cost money if you trained them or not.Every manager is not going to be a guru trainer. This why there is market and this why there is money for team saving to use such maret to buy.


You don't need to be a guru trainer or some mystical swami to create useful players from training. If we were talking the difference between players who are trained exceptionally well (which doesn't describe me either, btw) or just players trained moderately well or better (which I think I'd fit) that'd be one thing. But that's not the case here - to be perfectly frank, you have never trained a player that sold for more than 20k and you've got nobody that you've trained ever that has a salary of even 10k. That tells me that when it comes to "training" whatever you're doing is so ineffective that you're not creating players other people want or even that you want.

Why should a manage be punished for saving for the future?


So, to be clear, you're saying that losing money on a weekly basis (which is the only scenario where you'd be taxed) is saving money for the future?

Hell a decent person would say if your team cost 500K a season to run you need 2.5 million in the bank to be safe. But that's not case here on BB. Train a draft pick who is never going good unless your a guru trainer.


Once again, just because you can't do it doesn't mean it can't be done. The number of people on here who are creating players via training is sufficiently large that the game manages to have a transfer market without your contributions.

As for your other comments . I built more profits and won games with a bad team that never played Li/Lp than you could do with a good team that you say you have... I have amassed over 16 million in 10 season. If I wanted to buy my way to the top its not hard to do. So before you open your mouth about my acumen judge your own. And maybe your sf wouldn't shoots so bad in push the ball. btw Im not in debt, I could buy a full team 80$k week players if wanted too.


I was pulling over 150k/week in profits the last third of last season, with a roster under 300k total salaries. And won 5 of 7 games. I also, until this offseason, never in my BB career had $1M in my bank account - something to do with continuing to push money into my arena when I had extra money. I suppose if I had sat on the nearly 2M I put just into new lower tier seats next season, I could see what it's like to have big numbers in the bank account.

Not as hard as it seems. I'm about tactics not just winning and havinga boat load of money, maybe if understand that,you wouldn't be so bitter.


This, just like your whole comments (that were intelligible, at least) speak exactly the opposite. You simply sit back against lesser competition, building up your war chest because you subconsciously have figured out that you can't compete on even footing. You keep telling yourself (and anyone who'll waste time listening) that you're about tactics and you'll have this money and succeed wildly and, well, I regret to inform you that I find that highly unlikely.

And I'd love to hear more about my SF. For example, who exactly are you referring to? I have nobody currently with a listed position of SF since the last season's salary changes to JR/SB. I play several different players in that position based on my opponent and depending on my training needs. I'll go ahead and pass on the PTB advice, though - there's good reason why I don't run that and your opinion of it just doesn't move the needle at all on that.

Edit by Perpete:
Just corrected a messed up (quote) tag


Last edited by GM-Perpete at 12/30/2013 8:36:47 PM

This Post:
11
252784.108 in reply to 252784.107
Date: 12/31/2013 1:02:20 AM
Overall Posts Rated:
111111
Until this season and being thrown into a tough d. Iv league my whole team was homegrown and it was competitive enough to carry me to 128 in cup vs real teams

6k pg that you drafted at 2-3k and had for 10 seasons...

I got a pf/c with higher salary than that thT I trained for 1 full season and then he only gets 2-pos training sporadically.

You do know what is meant by training right? Week in week out 48+ mins of training focus for MULTIPLE seasons...

This Post:
44
252784.109 in reply to 252784.108
Date: 12/31/2013 3:41:40 AM
Overall Posts Rated:
345345
man, if this thread goes in this direction it makes no sense to keep it. And it's just because some childish person throws frustration all over.

This Post:
00
252784.110 in reply to 252784.103
Date: 12/31/2013 6:36:01 PM
Overall Posts Rated:
137137
He was already capped in the draft that why he didn't get pass it. A lot draft players are capped, which was my vaild point.

My second whole point is this fix the game before they start doing something like this.. I'm not saying its bad idea overall, Because it quite good for economy. I'm saying its a bad a idea now with so many flaws in the game unbalanced tactic and price to have to be effective, etc etc . People have already adjusted to that era of buzzer beater.

Again its not hurting me any. My team is in good standing regardless of a (any) taxes. My whole its te wrong time for this without fixing anything. You cant fix anything with a tax, all you do is kill good team in the hunt and help bad team turn to good teams over night.

Trust me it going 100 times harder to catch those Chinese teams and etc.

Last edited by Mr. Glass at 12/31/2013 6:37:42 PM

This Post:
11
252784.111 in reply to 252784.100
Date: 12/31/2013 6:53:52 PM
Overall Posts Rated:
137137
Look were I said "abusive sellers.". As in farm team//tanking teams. I find it funny to pick what you want to reply to. I don't think this tax help with so many flaws in the game. I don't have to agree, every man is granted his opinion.


Its a saying you cant fix bad money investments , by throwing good money behind it. That's what you don't understand here , that's was my whole point to moot.

Having a 18k in cap use is what 54K$ positive. Look man thats nothing to scream about. Some teams have never trained a player and have 350k to push over in luxury. With unbalanced tactic these teams have just gotten stronger sellers and winners.

Look I make 1.5 -2 million a year as club in 4 div, I don't tank , If wanted to I could have 150-450k exempt every full year. Put that in perspective for a bigger club who knows how to play but is playing unfairly tanking or is a abusive seller. Now tell me how is that good thing? For everything there is loop hole.

Money is not hard to get on the game, they are going to seek a way to get regardless of a tax, some already have it now. All im saying is balance the tactic before you add a tax because a lot already have the advantage. Take the tactic selling power away ( abusive farming, selling ) what do they have after the tax? *this is why teams are going above what they can pay for player because tactic imbalance*.

Every thing would be equal, but that is not the case here.

Last edited by Mr. Glass at 12/31/2013 7:00:39 PM

From: Yuck

This Post:
00
252784.112 in reply to 252784.110
Date: 12/31/2013 7:03:00 PM
Cassville Yuck
III.3
Overall Posts Rated:
553553
Second Team:
Yuckville Cass
Trust me it going 100 times harder to catch those Chinese teams and etc.


Talk about the White Elephant in the room. I wonder if this effect is intentional. This wouldn't be fair at all.

Advertisement