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So its been suggested that there is a Utopia league, where all supporters want a 2nd team can have one.

You can't trade players out of Utopia, nor can you trade players into Utopia. There is no cup(?), there is B3, there would be no league forum because you will be playing with people from various countries who may or may not speak English (although as Perpete pointed out, maybe the existance of Santa could be debated).

So basically, I would have a second team - Would there be $100k salary players to begin with? or would everyone start with random low salary players, like a new team...? If there is only say, 300 supporters around the world whom join this league, how will the transfer market economy work? Player transfer value will be MASSIVE compared to real BB. If everyone starts out with basic roster and team, how are people going to own a $200k salary guard after 3-4 seasons?

Im throwing all these questions out there because im just trying to show everyone that, the idea of a second league has a lot of issues with it, especially starting from scratch, lots of questions, lots of things that people won't agree with and i dont think its going to solve any issues with the game... everyone in this thread will havea a different opinion on how the new league should be setup and when it isnt setup exactly how they think it should be setup, they will be disappointed with BB and possibly not use the 2nd team.
(basically, its a 'grass is always greener' argument im making here).
So for me, I personally don't see having a 2nd team as a reason why I would continue to pay supporter.

I'm confused by what is being proposed. The simplest is just to let people have a second team in an existing country. This needs almost no programmatic changes except for ensuring the no trade rule. Otherwise you lose the reason for having a second team.

Good to hear.

You're forgetting all the cheating possibilities: farming, swapping training, blah blah blah...

But we're saying that there should be no interaction between the teams. That will remove all easy cheating possibilities. Other more complicated scenarios may be allowed but those exist even now.

Just posted a link to this thread in german global forum. I think, most of german users' english is good enough...
(Any doubts santa really exists, btw???)

A Monster-Yes, from me. I agree with alll point from the first post. But, the scrimmage rule is not that important. From my point of view, there is no real benefit with scrimmages against the own team ...

A Monster-Yes, from me. I agree with alll point from the first post. But, the scrimmage rule is not that important. From my point of view, there is no real benefit with scrimmages against the own team ...

Yes and no. The exakt same instant a 2nd team was allowed i'd get a pakistan team to get my #%$& last flag :D

Agree ... but i´m not interested in collecting flags ...

You're forgetting all the cheating possibilities: farming, swapping training, blah blah blah...

I'm clearly not saying that cheating is good, but as of now sooner or later we catch cheaters. With the second team being official, it gives us even more informatio and chances to catch them. With coded rules that would bloke them to make most of the actual cheating, if there is people ready to cheat through that second, that will be marginal. And in the meantime, they will bring money to BB while risking to lost their two teams and not get back their money. The effect of those possible cheaters should be borderline meaningless, especially in comparison on the possible money contribution.

I do not think so this leads lots of way to cheat.For example
"Player A" - Main Team is"X" Secondary Team "Y"
"Player B" - Main Team is "T" Secondary Team "G"

Player A and B deal each other to boost their main teams Player B bids from Team G to Team X , Player A bids from Team Y to Team T...money transfer! without harm their main teams.

And this can be do with three,four... people.Do not tell me we can catch them all sooner or later it can not that easy to catch people who does this not that goofy.


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Last edited by Revenge at 1/4/2014 2:52:50 PM