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From: yodabig

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216864.103 in reply to 216864.102
Date: 6/5/2012 9:56:12 AM
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I have to admit that I have copied you. I have purchased some players with "unusual" skill sets and patient is my second best tactic and I have had some real success with it.

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216864.104 in reply to 216864.98
Date: 6/5/2012 10:22:53 AM
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I'm not saying everyone does it, but buying up just for the finals is the suckiest part of the game. Just the same as tanking and then buying up to avoid relegation. It sucks for everyone else and is easily the worst part of the game.

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216864.105 in reply to 216864.104
Date: 6/5/2012 10:25:05 AM
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I agree with you here. I have long argued that they should do the same as the NBA where rosters are locked a week after the all star game.

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216864.106 in reply to 216864.105
Date: 6/5/2012 10:29:16 AM
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100% agreed.

Rosters don't necessarily have to be locked, but the transfer deadline for playoff eligibility definitely needs to be earlier.

Locking the rosters completely would add a certain element to team management though.

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216864.107 in reply to 216864.106
Date: 6/5/2012 10:38:13 AM
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Yes. When I say locked I mean playoff eligibility. I have no issue with people still buying and selling guys for scrimmages.

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216864.108 in reply to 216864.107
Date: 6/5/2012 10:39:30 AM
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Definitely agree with that.

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216864.109 in reply to 216864.108
Date: 6/6/2012 8:24:16 AM
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It seems very simple to me. We obviously have all played basketball and know that you need to play a certain number of games to qualify for finals. The same should apply here. If there was a limit of say 5 - 10 matches to be eligable for finals then the issue would be put to bed. Those wanting to go the big spend up method would need a lot more money and the risk of failure would be far greater.

I think a player needs to have played half of the season to be eligable for finals. This will hurt some if they have injuries but that is life.

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216864.110 in reply to 216864.109
Date: 6/6/2012 9:12:09 AM
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A couple of really good suggestions that would certainly add something to the game. Making the playoff cut off date occur sooner or placing a minimum game requirement for playoff qualification. I can see the debates on this firing up!

I've been burnt and seen it happen to plenty of others as well (Beechy comes to mind instantly). Managers are able to buy in huge salary teams, within such a short time before playoffs, that they can easily save enough money to get them through finals without going bankrupt. This has been especially so of late because those high salary players can be bought at such ridiculously cheap prices. Most teams can't afford the weekly wage of a $150k player in Div 2, so more people compete for players between $50k-$120k and pay more trying to purchase those players in bid wars, in comparison to those purchasing the higher tier players due to less trade market competition. There is some risk involved but more often than not, these teams can bank on achieving their goa byl using this tactic.

If they had to keep these high salary players for a longer time, it would make them have to plan ahead a bit better. They would still be able to save up, it would just take longer to accumulate enough cash to make it work. Quite possibly this may deter at least some managers from taking this easy option to a title.

Part of the problem is also that in order to promote and stay up, you need a team worthy of the division before you get there. So it really is a matter of timing and having all the dominoes in place. It's a tough one really and unfortunately I don't see any changes coming in this regard any time soon.

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216864.111 in reply to 216864.109
Date: 6/6/2012 9:37:09 AM
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Totally agree, the habit of buying in players for the finals is becoming more and more common... it's also the worst part of the game, imo.

I hope they change it, but I won't hold my breath.

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216864.112 in reply to 216864.109
Date: 6/6/2012 9:56:36 AM
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There have been numerous debates in the suggestion forums over many seasons about this issue, some involving myself.

Essentially the argument against changing it is:

The transfer market.

If players couldn't play finals after all-star break, then there would be significant periods of time during a season with which the transfer market would be flooded with players, and prices would fluctuate to a point where the transfer market would become a joke and an integral part of the game and game economy would be lost and you would then pretty much write the game off as being unplayable. Any major implications to the economy of this game would kill it and BB know it.
It is of my belief that BB think that they would lose more users (ie: me and you) to the game if they made this change and resultant transfer market implications, when compared to current save-n-splurge tactics which drive other users away.

The other argument commonly said amoungst forums around this discussion is - There is no one stopping you from using the same tactic. Everyone can do it, and can get exposed to the same risks. Everyone is on the same playing field. So its not unfair, its a legitmate game tactic that is available to everyone.
Again - not neccassarily my beliefs.

I dont totally agree with it all, just summarising some things that came out of many discussions.

It is my personal belief that even one week earlier in the season for playoff cut-off time would be enough to stem users from doing the save-n-splurge tactic, without too much implication to the game's economy. All-star break is too long and would cause the above economy clusterphuk-phenomena and yer.
Even before i had played out a full first season, i remember thinking to myself 'man, i can buy players this close to playoffs? thats a bit wrong isnt it?"...
so yer, it aint natural. But too big of a change would spell disaster.



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216864.113 in reply to 216864.112
Date: 6/6/2012 3:33:39 PM
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I personnally love that managers can buy themselves a championship team right before the playoffs! I find it thrilling!

However, I assume that cheap monsters are monoskilled. Therefore, one should be able to overcome a team of monsters with the right pieces in place.

From here, you can enjoy watching your opponent lose and make huge losses for his failure.

In addition to that, I find that kind of move so predictable. If someone is tanking and still makes the playoffs, the other managers can only blame themselves. If you're building a strong balanced team, it's your job to make sure the tankers get relegated.

In my opinion, if you lose to that kind of team in the post season, you're probably not good enough.

Conclusion: don't blame buzzerbeater, adapt yourselves!

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