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255435.108 in reply to 255435.106
Date: 3/6/2014 6:26:29 AM
No Good News
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There is a possibility that after few seasons, when the first division will be filled (or even earlier), there will be a few teams from the same country in the same division.. They can begin to help each other by arranging results between each other, and trying to win or lose some games which would be helpful for their countrymen and so on.. Just trying to keep them in the top division or for promotion.. I am not saying that it will happen, but there are some very united counties in BB, so there is a posibility.. Do you see it as a problem?

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255435.109 in reply to 255435.96
Date: 3/6/2014 6:32:35 AM
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2nd team is not finally a Supporter feature and all of us (yeah i have still some paid Supporter before getting the free one) paid for the package without anyone promising that we are going to get a 2nd team.


But until 4th of march, with the official news, we have:

-As poll question
Should BB develop the second team for Supporters feature [...] ?


-as final decision, the only part speaking about rules
I guess we can forget most of the things mentioned in the original post, as this is something completely different, with a whole new set of rules and restrictions.

but never find something about "no more supporters feature". Am i wrong?

you're right for your part, i can't read any promise about "only" supporter. But i've some proofs about starting idea.

I'm not seeing this way. 2nd team will cost to all of us $10 but don't forget that BBs recognizing the help from Supporters and they are going to give us actually 2 Supporter packages in the price of one


This is, for me, a "sop". And i repeat it. Why? Because "supporter" doesn't have double fun with his package, simply can control more aspects of the game (bookmarks, live update at top of the page during matchdays, numbers and logo and avatar and search in forum, polls, smileys). 2nd team, at least in consideration during the poll post, give the chance to double the fun, it seems. Or, as i underlines, double the stress ;). In my mind 2nd team may be priority instead of supporter package, and some actions (give supporter for free if you buy 2nd team and have supporter = if you pay me 10$ i give you 40$, at least actually) done by BB's are close to my opinion (pushing 2nd team than supporter) than to "elite" idea. IMO.

I like to repeat, this is not an accuse, i'm open to understand your POV, but if i answer with mine it's just to understand better, not to fight.

so there was an open window to be extended and this is actually happened as the deal is still available and its going to be available for more time.So this has nothing to do with the 2nd team and a plan to play any conspiracy games against users



I can't find, in 3d you linked, info about extension. strange. because you publicized (or spammed, differente POV) the "grand opening" of DS promotion,and you should do the same to every user, telling him the extension.


About conspiracy, i praise behaviour, because at least for economic issues is "the best way". So no conspiracy, but a little abuse in relationship with supporters, older and newer.

I just underline, this is not a money issue, although enough motivation are about money.At least not at this level, paying 0,08€ a day for supporter or 0,02€ for 2nd team...

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255435.112 in reply to 255435.111
Date: 3/6/2014 7:19:51 AM
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Many users are not going to believe what Marin wrote in his post. The $10 is not primarily and only for money. It's mostly to ensure that every user who is going to participate will have a strong incentive to remain very active. It sounds unrealistic to many users but this was the main point of the payment.


I really think charging supporters is unfair.

Thinking about it, maybe you(people making decisions) were thinking about numbers. You say you expect about 1k second teams. If there are 1k supporters, then maybe you account in the possibility that many supporters wouldn't take their second team seriously, which would sabotage the competition?

From: Marcelo

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255435.113 in reply to 255435.55
Date: 3/6/2014 7:25:44 AM
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As nobody liked the name Utopia, simply change the name for Rest of World. So Utopia represent nations that do not yet exist in the game.

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