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From: slackboy

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9808.103 in reply to 9808.36
Date: 12/14/2007 7:32:10 AM
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Here's how:

-The more people who participate in a market, the more likely it will be to arrive at a an agreed upon value for a player
-Daytraders find players who are undervalued by the market and sell them at market price, plugging a hole in the market for that particular skillset and timeframe
-The more daytraders you have, the less likely each one can find undervalued players
-If no players are undervalued (or overvalued), the the market has reached equilibrium for a particular skillset and timeframe
-When a market reaches equilibrium, it's less risky for everyone trying to buy and sell because there is less uncertainty about what they can get for a certain price
-Thus, for people who run the standard training and selling regimen, they will have a better idea of what their trained players will sell for than if the market were not at equilibrium.

straight out of the book, too bad it just doesn't work in real life. not even in a simplified market as this one.

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9808.104 in reply to 9808.103
Date: 12/14/2007 8:21:10 AM
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You will receive 80% of the sale price after fees.



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9808.105 in reply to 9808.104
Date: 12/14/2007 8:59:22 AM
Freccia Azzurra
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I've still to check but anyway unfortunately is not enough, as Hattrick can easily show...

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9808.106 in reply to 9808.105
Date: 12/14/2007 9:04:12 AM
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Sometimes I thought that there should be a parallell agent game to both BB and HT. In this way people that love trading can get their fun without having to ruin the balance of the games.

(It is probably to complicated to introduce, so it is more of a thought than something really realistic. But who knows)

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9808.107 in reply to 9808.52
Date: 12/14/2007 9:05:40 AM
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Cuba's economy struggles because of the embargoes imposed on it by the greediest, most selfish economy of them all. Small socialist economies in countries with mostly homogenous populations do fine, as I am sure Cuba's would if the USof Greed didn't strongarm the world into not dealing with it.

The definition of successful economy is a central issue. If it is okay that some players have huge piles of money with which they can buy all the best players and dominate the basketball part of the game, similar to the ways of professional sports in the US of Greed (see NY Yankees, Boston Red Sox, etc.) then alright! Let's have a greed-based capitalist game!!! Woohoo!!! If, however, we define a successful economy as some sort of parity and equity between all members of the community, then a major penalty for purely profit-driven transfers is necessary. Let revenue come from increasing arena capacity and developing a team that fans want to come see, not from poring over the transfer lists and buying and selling players like stocks. Go play a stock simulator if that's what gets you off.

My two baht anywho...

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9808.108 in reply to 9808.105
Date: 12/14/2007 9:12:28 AM
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I've still to check but anyway unfortunately is not enough, as Hattrick can easily show...


Without outright restricting the amount of transfers (which would be more unfair than anything), then this is as good as it will get.

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Charles: Penn has some good people
A CT? Really?
Any two will do
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Any four will score
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9808.109 in reply to 9808.108
Date: 12/14/2007 9:21:41 AM
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I've still to check but anyway unfortunately is not enough, as Hattrick can easily show...


Without outright restricting the amount of transfers (which would be more unfair than anything), then this is as good as it will get.

I really don't think so. I think that player contracts of, for example, half a season would be better. If you break the contrct that's ok, but you wil then have to pay a penalty fee.

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9808.110 in reply to 9808.107
Date: 12/14/2007 9:24:39 AM
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the think with the "greed economy" as you call it is that ebven though teams like the Red Sox, Yankees, and Rangers have piles of money to spend, money is still not close to beiung enough (just look at their records). While in games like BB and HT it is perhaps not enough either, but pretty close to enough.

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9808.111 in reply to 9808.109
Date: 12/14/2007 9:29:51 AM
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I really don't think so. I think that player contracts of, for example, half a season would be better. If you break the contrct that's ok, but you wil then have to pay a penalty fee.


That is exactly what the agent fee does.

If you sell a guy immediately upon buying him, you're paying a 20% penalty.

NO ONE at this table ordered a rum & Coke
Charles: Penn has some good people
A CT? Really?
Any two will do
Any three for me
Any four will score
Any five are live
From: ned

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9808.112 in reply to 9808.109
Date: 12/14/2007 9:36:24 AM
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really don't think so. I think that player contracts of, for example, half a season would be better. If you break the contrct that's ok, but you wil then have to pay a penalty fee.


I completely agree. Honestly hattrick is a good game but it has also some negative points. I hope buzz will take all the good points leaving out the negatives one. Tell me if I'm wrong, the market was born to give us the possibility to buy players that could add a value in our teams and these players should be trained to add more value in the team. It's possible to buy a wrong player, probably it's possible to buy 3 bad players but in this case I agree to pay some penality for my wrong decision. The market is not like a supermarket where I can take everything if I've enough money, the market in this game should be the only way to buy better players. I don't buy players every week even if I've money to do that, it means that I use the market only when really I need a player; I don't understand why there is the necessity to keep an high number of transfers...

Edited by ned (14/12/2007 9.37.10 CET)

Last edited by ned at 12/14/2007 9:37:10 AM

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9808.113 in reply to 9808.111
Date: 12/14/2007 10:10:59 AM
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I really don't think so. I think that player contracts of, for example, half a season would be better. If you break the contrct that's ok, but you wil then have to pay a penalty fee.


That is exactly what the agent fee does.

If you sell a guy immediately upon buying him, you're paying a 20% penalty.

Yes, but not to full extent. A 20% is a very low penalty for braking a contract. According to me the penalty should be a lot higher for braking a comtract during the first half season, and then start to decrease fast. after e.g. one season their should be no penalty at all according to me, because then you haven't broke any comtract. this would benefit those that are skilful in buying players and devleoping them, rather than those that just happen to have time (and patience) to DT/WT.

(actually I would like a feature where you could give your players longterm comtracts, and in that way decrease your salaries. If you would like to brrake the contract then that's fine, but you will have to pay a fine that i higher than the salary you saved during the contract period.)

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